The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[morgieb]

India-Pakista-SA team that

What is the story of Danish Kaneria? Never knew he was involved in some dirty business.

Kaneria finally admits to his involvement in 2009 spot-fixing scandal

The former Pakistan spinner played a central role in the corruption by introducing Essex teammate Mervyn Westfield to an illegal bookmaker

www.cricbuzz.com

 

[ankitj]

A pretty solid middle order. Would both Saleem Malik and Azharudddin be contenders for their country's ATG sides if not for the fixing? Both have great records

Azhar was certainly a player better than his numbers. Wasn't consistent but he could switch on God mode and play knocks comparable to the best Tendulkar has played.

 

[mr_mister]

His numbers are already pretty good though.

 

[harsh.ag]

Azhar's god mode was great but he clearly, and I mean this in a bad way, gave few ****s about winning games for India. His god mode usually came around either when he felt there was nothing to lose or when he had something to prove.

 

[honestbharani]

Impossible to lose against XI


Herschel Gibbs
Salman Butt
Mohd Azharuddin
Saleem Malik
Hanse Cronje (c)
Shakib al Hasan
Umar Akmal (wk)
Ata ur Rahman
Danish Kaneria
Mohd Asif
Mohd Amir

Surely Sreesanth > Ata Ur Rehman though?

 

[trundler]

Waugh and Warne walk in if Shakib is included

 

[honestbharani]

Slowly becoming an ATG side then.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

W. G. Grace has to be in a side like that

 

[bagapath]

Waugh and Warne walk in if Shakib is included

Not banned. So can’t be selected

 

[bagapath]

Surely Sreesanth > Ata Ur Rehman though?

Fixing Domestic cricket matches not good enough. Should have been banned for fixing international matches to qualify.

 

[bagapath]

India-Pakista-SA team that

Yup. Some of the dodgy English and Aussie cricketers never got banned. Caribbeans and kiwis came to the party late and fixed only t20s.

 

[a massive zebra]

Not banned. So can’t be selected

Shane Warne was given a one year ban from the sport in 2003 for testing positive for a prohibited substance.

 

[stephen]

If the XI was just about players being banned then Warne walks in. If it's about players being banned for fixing he doesn't.

 

[stephen]

Warne and Waugh only escaped because they pleaded ignorance. Education at the time was poor at best and they couldn't believe someone was paying them money to listen to their opinions on the pitch. They thought it was simply over generosity by fanatical Indian fans.

 

[mr_mister]

Azhar's god mode was great but he clearly, and I mean this in a bad way, gave few ****s about winning games for India. His god mode usually came around either when he felt there was nothing to lose or when he had something to prove.

I remember he got a big ton in that super hyped 98 series against Australia but on closer inspection it looks a bit downhill skiish. What a top 6 you guys had in that series though

IND vs AUS Cricket Scorecard, 2nd Test at Kolkata, March 18 - 21, 1998

Get cricket scorecard of 2nd Test, IND vs AUS, Australia tour of India 1997/98 at Eden Gardens, Calcutta dated March 18 - 21, 1998.

www.espncricinfo.com

 

[a massive zebra]

If the XI was just about players being banned then Warne walks in. If it's about players being banned for fixing he doesn't.

Well he included Shakib who also has not been banned for fixing. He was banned for failing to report corrupt approaches. There is no evidence he ever actually fixed.

 

[stephen]

Well he included Shakib who also has not been banned for fixing. He was banned for failing to report approaches. There is no evidence he ever actually fixed.

Yeah so that's borderline because the ban was fixing related but not for fixing.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Warne and Waugh only escaped because they pleaded ignorance. Education at the time was poor at best and they couldn't believe someone was paying them money to listen to their opinions on the pitch. They thought it was simply over generosity by fanatical Indian fans.

If anyone is going to successfully plead ignorance, it would be those 2 idiots tbf

 

[ankitj]

I remember he got a big ton in that super hyped 98 series against Australia but on closer inspection it looks a bit downhill skiish. What a top 6 you guys had in that series though

IND vs AUS Cricket Scorecard, 2nd Test at Kolkata, March 18 - 21, 1998

Get cricket scorecard of 2nd Test, IND vs AUS, Australia tour of India 1997/98 at Eden Gardens, Calcutta dated March 18 - 21, 1998.

www.espncricinfo.com

Check out these knocks. Hundreds at better than run a ball against peak Donald and solid back up attack:

 

[mr_mister]

yeah. averaging 45 in that crazy ATG bowler heavy era(and none of them on his side) is enough for me to rate him pretty highly

and he got a ton in his final test so it seems he still had more to offer when it all came undone. pity about the whole match fixing thing