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*Official* West Indies Tour of England 2020

Spark

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Maybe don't drop your 500-wicket-career bowler for someone averaging 34 and has had no record of consistent Test performance at the start of the series hey @ England selectors

Bahnz said:
Would stand to reason, given that (although they debuted only a few months apart) Broad has played nearly twice as many matches as Southee has.
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I think Broad is actually a better bowler than his record though. He doesn't just bowl good spells, he bowls series-defining spells with incredible regularity. Ashes 2019 is one of the very few occasions of "Broad bowls really well but doesn't win the series for England" that I can recall and that's mostly because they really only had one end to bowl at most of the time.
 
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So it seems they won't get to 200 after all. Should be a comfortable win for England from here.
 
Flem274*

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Howe_zat said:
Well, sure. But I meant in a sort of 'career peaks' kind of way, off the top of my head.

To illustrate this feeling with an attempt at evidence, I'll offer that Southee has three times been a top ten ranked bowler (going by the ICC player rankings), in 2014-15, 2016 and now. Broad has done it five times, in 2010, 2011-12, 2013, 2015-16 and now.
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im skeptical of these rankings given southee should have been dropped in 2016 for spraying it around at 120kph every game.
 
Flem274*

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i'll revise 'he might get to 500 this game' to 'he's probably gonna get 500 in this game'

that's a pretty cool achievement for a guy who had a verrryy rocky beginning to his career.
 
Bahnz

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TheJediBrah said:
lmfao at comparing Southee to Broad

I know some of you kiwis have parochialism dialed up to >9000 but that's a new one

Broad more than a few tiers above the likes of Southee
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I could understand why an aussie who's had to deal with Broad scuppering a decade's worth of efforts to win in England would think this. The truth of the matter though is that overall there's very little separating their records (especially when you consider that Southee debuted as a teenager). I'd prefer Broad's extra yard of pace and bounce against SA and Australia, but would prefer Southee's swing and cutters against the sub-continental sides.
 
Beamer

Beamer

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Still, I liked the approach this morning of being positive bit not reckless. We were way too defensive yesterday.
 
Flem274*

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dowrich has fought well. had his dramas but he's quietly still there.
Bahnz said:
I could understand why an aussie who's had to deal with Broad scuppering a decade's worth of efforts to win in England would think this. The truth of the matter though is that overall there's very little separating their records (especially when you consider that Southee debuted as a teenager). I'd prefer Broad's extra yard of pace and bounce against SA and Australia, but would prefer Southee's swing and cutters against the sub-continental sides.
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broads better but remember what you're talking at
 
Howe_zat

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Bahnz said:
I could understand why an aussie who's had to deal with Broad scuppering a decade's worth of efforts to win in England would think this. The truth of the matter though is that overall there's very little separating their records (especially when you consider that Southee debuted as a teenager). I'd prefer Broad's extra yard of pace and bounce against SA and Australia, but would prefer Southee's swing and cutters against the sub-continental sides.
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I get the theory, but Broad has a much better record against India & Pakistan than he has against Australia & South Africa. His record is dominated by who happens to have been playing when he has one of 'those' spells
 
BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

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Gorgeous back foot drive now.

Wee fella has his eye in.

EDIT: and finishes with a rank slog to make a liar of me...
 
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