The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[trundler]

That would also mean replacing Smith with Gayle so you have a stand and deliver type in there. Lara and Sobers are also too similar. This is very intricate, HB.

 

[Victor Ian]

Procter getting 4 wickets in 5 balls including Greenidge and B.Richards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GVYtBU-N-8

Thanks for that. I misrepresented not seeing Proctor as i had seen footage of his action before, but never what happened at the other end.

I feel he would have been immense in test cricket because how do you practice against such a unique action? Any team can call in a local to bowl something like the danger man's style if it is spin, or swing or whatever. They wouldnt have had that luxury with Proctor.

 

[Starfighter]

Barnes is a mystery to me. Never saw him play. Never saw a person who played with him and called him the best ever play. Never saw a person who saw that person play and probably didn't see the person who saw the person who saw the person play.

His statistics are insane. He bowled something unique. He and Proctor are my favourite bowlers that I never saw.

Syd Barnes bowling in about 1930, I believe.

 

[stephen]

Syd Barnes bowling in about 1930, I believe.

Looks like a pretty standard pacers action IMO.

 

[Red]

..

Just not sure why you think he wouldn't be a third seamer?

 

[bagapath]

An Indian XI by picking a player every 8 year period since the country's test debut in 1932.

Sunil Gavaskar (1972-1980)
Vijay Merchant (1940-1948)
Rahul Dravid (1996-2004)
Sachin Tendulkar (1988-1996)
Virat Kohli (2012-2020)
Polly Umrigar (1956-1964)
MS Dhoni (2004-2012)
Vinoo Mankad (1948-1956)
Kapil Dev (1980-1988)
Amar Singh (1932-1940)
Erapalli Prasanna (1964-1972)

With a few changes...

Sunil Gavaskar (1972-1980)
Vijay Merchant (1932-1940)
Rahul Dravid (1996-2004)
Sachin Tendulkar (1988-1996)
Vijay Hazare (1948-1956)
MS Dhoni (2004-2012) + *
Vinoo Mankad (1940-1948)
Kapil Dev (1980-1988)
Bishan Bedi (1964-1972)
Subhash Gupte (1956-1964)
Bumrah (2012-2020)

 

[h_hurricane]

An English team on similar lines

Jack Hobbs (1916-1929)
Len Hutton(1942-1955)
W G Grace(1877-1890)
Wally Hammond(1929-1942)
Kevin Pietersen(2007-2020)
Alec Stewart(1994-2007)
Ian Botham(1981-1994)
Fred Trueman(1955-1968)
Derek Underwood(1968-1981)
Sydney Barnes(1903-1916)
George Lohmann(1890-1903)

 

[trundler]

Hanif Mohammad (58-64)
Saeed Anwar (94-00)
Younis Khan (06-12)
Inzimam-ul-Haq (00-06)
Javed Miandad (82-88)
Zaheer Abbas (70-76)
Mushtaq Mohammad (64-70)
Imran Khan (76-82)
Sarfraz Ahmed (12-18)
Wasim Akram (88-94)
Fazal Mahmood (52-58)

1 player every 6 years. Alternatively Misbah comes in for Sarfraz and Bari for Abbas but I quite like this balance.

 

[trundler]

1 for every 13 years Australian XI:

Trumper (1903-16)
Simpson (55-68)
Bradman (29-42)
Smith (2007-20)
Border (81-94)
Miller (42-55)
Gregory (1916-29)
Giffen (1890-1903)
Blackham (1877-90)
Warne (94-07)
Lillee (68-81)

Or:

Trumper
Simpson
Bradman
Smith
Border
Macartney (1916-29)
Gilchrist
Trumble
Lindwall (1942-55)
Lillee
Spofforth (1877-90)

 

[trundler]

A South African XI with one from each decade excluding boycott.



Taylor (1920s)
Mitchell (1940s)
Kallis (1990s)
G Pollock (1960s)
Nourse (1930s)
De Villiers (2010s)
Faulkner (1910s)
Sinclair (1890s)
Vogler (1900s)
Steyn (2000s)
Adcock (1950s)

Yeah I cheated a bit

 

[trundler]

Hobbs 16-29
Hutton 42-55
Grace 77-90
Hammond 29-42
Ranji 90-03
Botham 81-94
Stewart 94-07
Trueman 55-68
Barnes 03-16
Underwood 68-81
Anderson 07-20

Had a really long **** and thought about this extensively.

 

[trundler]

Gayle (04-12)
Walcott (48-56)
Headley (40-48)
Lara (96-04)
Richards (72-80)
Sobers (56-64)
Derryck Murray+ (64-72)
Holder (12-20)
Constantine (32-40)
Marshall (80-88)
Ambrose (88-96)

A West Indian from the last 88 years.

 

[ataraxia]

Gayle (04-12)
Walcott (48-56)
Headley (40-48)
Lara (96-04)
Richards (72-80)
Sobers (56-64)
Derryck Murray+ (64-72)
Holder (12-20)
Constantine (32-40)
Marshall (80-88)
Ambrose (88-96)

A West Indian from the last 88 years.

Walcott opening is unusual -- Worrell's for the taking and Headley could probably open.

 

[trundler]

Walcott did open early on in his career. Did think of Worrell. Perhaps he would be an improvement.

 

[ataraxia]

Walcott did open early on in his career.

3 times at an average of 8.64.

 

[a massive zebra]

3 times at an average of 8.64.

It is impossible to obtain an average of 8.64 after 3 innings.

 

[ataraxia]

It is impossible to obtain an average of 8.64 after 3 innings.

Misremembered. 8.67.

 

[honestbharani]

Headley to open, Lara at 3 and Walcott at 4 could work too.

 

[Aaron510]

Hanif Mohammad (58-64)
Saeed Anwar (94-00)
Younis Khan (06-12)
Inzimam-ul-Haq (00-06)
Javed Miandad (82-88)
Zaheer Abbas (70-76)
Mushtaq Mohammad (64-70)
Imran Khan (76-82)
Sarfraz Ahmed (12-18)
Wasim Akram (88-94)
Fazal Mahmood (52-58)

1 player every 6 years. Alternatively Misbah comes in for Sarfraz and Bari for Abbas but I quite like this balance.

Yousuf for zaheer
Moin for sarfraz
Saqlin for mushtaq
Akhtar for fazal

 

[a massive zebra]

Yousuf for zaheer
Moin for sarfraz
Saqlin for mushtaq
Akhtar for fazal

With those swaps you would no longer have a player from every six year period.