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***Official*** English Football Season 2019-20

cpr

International Coach
Well, if you expand the Prem to 22 for next season, you can pretty much do all promotions without relegation (Bury going allows for 3 up from L2)

Expand the play offs to 8 teams and run them over a week. No one hits a financial penalty for relegation, no one who was in the running for promotion misses out on a chance.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
League One and Two set to be decided by PPG then. Not going to go down well with someone.
Honestly there's so many valid points I can make but amongst them all, how the **** do you promote a 4th team via PPG when 4th wouldn't automatically go up in normal times?

I'm sure i don't need to explain the fixture list and how it works to anyone in here. So if you want to know why I will be justifiably pissy if we go down on this basis, go look at the table, the fixtures played and the fixtures to come. If you can tell me thats not a ****ing joke with a straight face then go **** yourself.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Palios said we won't, but I think that's because he knows a richer club with better resources will.
 

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Mansfield are having a **** season so really I'm not all that fussed, it won't see us go down and we won't go up either so has zero impact.

I'm still pissed at Bury for not giving up earlier so we could get promoted instead of them last season - bastards.
 

Uppercut

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You could pretty easily make a fair adjustment for the relative difficulty of remaining games. I still wouldn't agree with it, but it'd be clearly much fairer, and the only reason they're not is because it might involve having to think too hard.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
You could pretty easily make a fair adjustment for the relative difficulty of remaining games. I still wouldn't agree with it, but it'd be clearly much fairer, and the only reason they're not is because it might involve having to think too hard.
Could be a can of worms re: methodology as well I guess. Current way of doing things, bollocks as it is, is fairly straightforward. Once you start introducing variables etc. to any sort of predictive analysis of remaining games it would create loads of possible nodes of scrutiny. Not saying this isn't a reason for doing it, but I'd be drawing my knives for a fight if I was on the receiving end of such a thing.
 

Pothas

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Honestly there's so many valid points I can make but amongst them all, how the **** do you promote a 4th team via PPG when 4th wouldn't automatically go up in normal times?

I'm sure i don't need to explain the fixture list and how it works to anyone in here. So if you want to know why I will be justifiably pissy if we go down on this basis, go look at the table, the fixtures played and the fixtures to come. If you can tell me thats not a ****ing joke with a straight face then go **** yourself.
Always found it weird that 4 went up in League Two anyway (I know that worked in your favour last year.)

You had some huge fixtures coming up didn't you?
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Next three were Lincoln (h), Wimbledon (a), MK (H). Lincoln weren't really in trouble but definitely winnable for us in our form at home, the other two were huge. Quite frankly indefensible to send us down on PPG in this context

Agree on the four up tbh. We finished 6th so still might well have gone up anyway tbh.
 

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It makes no sense and just two relegated. League Two what an utterly **** league. Hated it.
Used to be just 1 and before then just 1 if a board agreed to the team that won the Conference was worth promoting.

Very very slowly the current system for League 2 relegation is getting better. And as GIMH knows the Conference can be a bastard to get out of once you're in it.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah I think it should be 3 up 3 down like all the other nationwide leagues. Gap between League Two and Conference is probably no bigger than any other league, probably smaller in fact.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Yeah I think it should be 3 up 3 down like all the other nationwide leagues. Gap between League Two and Conference is probably no bigger than any other league, probably smaller in fact.
League to league the gap is massive. There are clubs in the conference that would have no business saying efl never mind playing in it.

But generally the top bunch in the conference would settle comfortably in League Two. I don't think anyone has ever gone straight back which tells its own story. That was a terrible Macc side by football league standards last year. Still don't know how they beat us to the title the year before. And yet they stayed up. So yeah 3 and 3 seems right.
 

Matteh

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League to league the gap is massive. There are clubs in the conference that would have no business saying efl never mind playing in it.

But generally the top bunch in the conference would settle comfortably in League Two. I don't think anyone has ever gone straight back which tells its own story. That was a terrible Macc side by football league standards last year. Still don't know how they beat us to the title the year before. And yet they stayed up. So yeah 3 and 3 seems right.
Top half of the Conference is usually EFL standard. The bottom half, less so. Remember going to Tamworth where there were more away fans than home fans somehow. Was also that run of teams getting promoted twice in succession too.

We only drew with Macclesfield away last season and they were shite. No idea how we didn't beat them as they didn't pose a threat but we just pissed around in the second half. Will blame that game for us not going up.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Cbf right now but hit me up on messenger for some tales about your squad, I worked with one of your players other halves last season.

Personally from a combination of things she said and just generally looking at form, knew you weren't going to go up from about March and would have fancied us against you in the play offs. But it's mad as in the two league games I'd say Mansfield were the best team I saw.
 

Matteh

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Cbf right now but hit me up on messenger for some tales about your squad, I worked with one of your players other halves last season.

Personally from a combination of things she said and just generally looking at form, knew you weren't going to go up from about March and would have fancied us against you in the play offs. But it's mad as in the two league games I'd say Mansfield were the best team I saw.
I saw us play twice against Coventry as the new step-dad is a fan of them. We blew a lead against their 10 men at our place, another 2 points dropped unnecessarily. The game at the Ricoh though might be one of the best games I've seen Mansfield play. Stuff just worked, they weren't utterly frustrating and then fired one in to win 1-0.
 

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