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DoG's Top 100 Test Batsmen Countdown Thread

stephen

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Even though Sunilz exaggerated some of my statements surely they're more defensible than "I don't rate Chappell because he never played against Marshall".
 
Burgey

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I don’t think you need to justify yourself in the face of such an appalling ad hominem attack from sunilz, stephen. The man plainly lashed out in embarrassment at being called out on his own oafish posting.
 
sunilz

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I rate Greg Chappell at par with ATG like Dravid/Sangakkara . However he doesn't belong to same level as Tendulkar, Lara , Smith ( Till now ). He belongs to second tier of ATG imo because he was unproven against quality spin in Asia and great WI attack in WI at test level
 
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Burgey said:
I don’t think you need to justify yourself in the face of such an appalling ad hominem attack from sunilz, stephen. The man plainly lashed out in embarrassment at being called out on his own oafish posting.
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Good luck if you think I am embarrassed. I was the first poster to bring hole in Greg Chappell's record last year . And I am vindicated by DOG's rating which doesn't put him in top 20 ATG batsman. He simply doesn't belong to top tier ATG batsman like Tendulkar, Lara, Smith or Hobbs.
 
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stephen said:
Even though Sunilz exaggerated some of my statements surely they're more defensible than "I don't rate Chappell because he never played against Marshall".
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they're not just defensible. They range from clearly factual (eg. India only drew in Aus in 2003 because McGrath wasn't playing) to debatably true at worst.
 
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sunilz said:
Good luck if you think I am embarrassed. I was the first poster to bring hole in Greg Chappell's record last year . And I am vindicated by DOG's rating which doesn't put him in top 20 ATG batsman. He simply doesn't belong to top tier ATG batsman like Tendulkar, Lara, Smith or Hobbs.
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You weren’t the first poster at all to point to Chappell’s record. The joint has 30,000 plus members over nearly two decades and you reckon you were the first to bring it up? Fmd you’re right. I take it back. Plainly nothing embarrasses you.
 
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TheJediBrah said:
they're not just defensible. They range from clearly factual (eg. India only drew in Aus in 2003 because McGrath/Warne weren't playing) to debatably true at worst.
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Such a shame India managed to beat AUS in 2001 at home without Kumble and Srinath ( last 2 tests ) . May be AUS ATG team wasn't as good as many posters believe.

And India missed Warne more than AUS in that series tbh.
Which team wouldn't miss a bowler who averages 47 against them.
 
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Burgey said:
You weren’t the first poster at all to point to Chappell’s record. The joint has 30,000 plus members over nearly two decades and you reckon you were the first to bring it up? Fmd you’re right. I take it back. Plainly nothing embarrasses you.
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Go easy on personal insults. Or you will get banned again
 
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That’s not a personal insult ffs. Grow up.

Presumably Tendulkar’s runs in the 98 series don’t count as McGrath didn’t play, same with anything scored by an Indian batsman out here in 03/04? I just want to make sure we have the sunilz logic right here. Is this the point you’ve been labouring this afternoon?
 
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Burgey said:
That’s not a personal insult ffs. Grow up.

Presumably Tendulkar’s runs in the 98 series don’t count as McGrath didn’t play, same with anything scored by an Indian batsman out here in 03/04? I just want to make sure we have the sunilz logic right here. Is this the point you’ve been labouring this afternoon?
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You are free to not count any runs. But India managed to beat AUS in 2001 even with McGrath when India didn't have Kumble.
But Greg Chappell never scored any runs against Imran , Marshall, Qadir or Garner overseas at test level.
 
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sunilz said:
You are free to not count any runs. But India managed to beat AUS in 2001 even with McGrath when India didn't have Kumble.
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How is that relevant at all? That was in India. And India missing Kumble is hardly analogous to Australia without McGrath.
 
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sunilz said:
You are free to not count any runs. But India managed to beat AUS in 2001 even with McGrath when India didn't have Kumble.
But Greg Chappell never scored any runs against Imran , Marshall, Qadir or Garner overseas at test level.
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I don’t recall saying he did. You’re being ridiculous here. Just acknowledge you made a stupid point by criticising a bloke’s record because he didn’t face a fella who wasn’t selected during his time playing. As I said, there’s heaps of reasons to talk down GC’s record but that ain’t one of them, surely?
 
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Burgey said:
I don’t recall saying he did. You’re being ridiculous here. Just acknowledge you made a stupid point by criticising a bloke’s record because he didn’t face a fella who wasn’t selected during his time playing. As I said, there’s heaps of reasons to talk down GC’s record but that ain’t one of them, surely?
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That is Greg Chappell's problem that he toured WI only once in his career. His career was of 14 years but he played only once in WI, PAK never played in IND. I think we have got a problem here.
 
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