DoG's Top 100 Test Batsmen Countdown Thread

[Days of Grace]

No.52

Kevin Pietersen (England) 745

Quality Points: 686
Career Points: 59

Career/Runs: 2005-2014, 8181 (rank 49)

Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 45.03 (47.28) 43.04 (45.20) 56.62 (61.72) (rank 52)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (2005-2007): 51.55 50.52 60.11 (rank 72)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 39.81 37.64 52.91 (rank 99)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 45.68 44.00 58.24 (rank 41)

 

[honestbharani]

Played perhaps the most amazing and astonishing counter attacking knock against India in India. That knock was just something else.

 

[mr_mister]

wow..

I think its been discussed before his bowling average of 26 which looks great today was nothing special for pre WW1 averages

 

[Days of Grace]

No.51

Bob Simpson (Australia) 746

Quality Points: 689
Career Points: 57

Career/Runs: 1957-1978, 4869 (rank 57)

Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 44.95 (46.81) 42.11 (43.86) 50.11 (43.91) (rank 63)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (1964-1978): 57.88 55.56 51.22 (rank 43)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 41.96 39.12 50.62 (rank 84)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 44.97 40.75 52.39 (rank 58)

 

[Days of Grace]

Update

51 RB Simpson 746
52 KP Pietersen 745
53 KD Walters 741
54 AC Gilchrist 741
55 ER Dexter 736
56 PBH May 730
57 SJ McCabe 730
58 FMM Worrell 728
59 MC Cowdrey 727
60 SM Nurse 725
61 GA Faulkner 724
62 CG Greenidge 722
63 CA Pujara 722
64 WM Lawry 722
65 VVS Laxman 720
66 DI Gower 719
67 B Mitchell 717
68 VT Trumper 717
69 RB Richardson 716
70 PA de Silva 715
71 Saeed Anwar 712
72 JL Langer 711
73 LRPL Taylor 708
74 TT Samaraweera 708
75 MD Crowe 706
76 EJ Barlow 702
77 DL Amiss 702
78 AD Mathews 701
79 Zaheer Abbas 701
80 Misbah-ul-Haq 700
81 GP Thorpe 699
82 AR Morris 696
83 M Azharuddin 695
84 DR Martyn 695
85 IM Chappell 694
86 CH Gayle 694
87 ME Waugh 694
88 TW Graveney 693
89 G Kirsten 692
90 Saleem Malik 692
91 EH Hendren 690
92 JH Edrich 685
93 GR Viswanath 684
94 SM Katich 683
95 NC O'Neill 683
96 HW Taylor 681
97 MA Taylor 681
98 DC Boon 681
99 DB Vengsarkar 679
100 Hanif Mohammad 679

 

[ataraxia]

Gonna be lovely when Clem Hill ranks above Allan Border.

 

[Days of Grace]

No.50

Clem Hill (Australia) 747

Quality Points: 706
Career Points: 41

Career/Runs: 1896-1912, 3412 (rank 123)

Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 45.90 (39.21) 44.87 (38.34) 57.78 (58.64) (rank 31)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (1897-1905): 55.43 53.21 57.30 (rank 54)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 41.94 39.40 53.47 (rank 81)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 44.38 44.38 55.21 (rank 51)

The one a lot of posters have been waiting for. Clem Hill finishes 30 points and 18 positions above his famous contemporary Victor Trumper. Here is the breakdown of their points across the 5 measures.

Career: Hill 41 Trumper 36 (Hill played for three more years than Trumper)
Overall: Hill 406 (45.90) Trumper 398 (45.29) (Hill has the greater RPI whilst Trumper has the higher strike-rate)
Peak: Hill 158 (55.43) Trumper 158 (55.64) (Again, RPI trumps strike-rate)
Non-Home: Hill 68 (41.94) Trumper 60 (36.18)
Quality Opposition: Hill 75 (44.38) Trumper 65 (37.64)

It's close but Hill was better than Trumper away from home and against the quality opposition of their day (England). Hill therefore takes his place as the top batsmen of those who played their entire careers before the Great War.

We have an English opening batsman up next. The first of six in the top 50.

 

[ankitj]

Pietersen ranked above a bunch of players of superior reputation -- Crowe, Laxman, Greenidge etc.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I'd have him even higher personally. Best batsman to play for England in the last 30 years.

 

[vcs]

Pietersen > Laxman

Surprised Slater didn't make the top 100?

 

[Bahseph]

I've seen some batsmen make it look ridiculously easy over the last decade. I'm taking about de Villiers seeming to bat on another wicket from the rest of the match, or Kohli looking like he could chase down 500 if he was on song, or Steve Smith being well, Steve Smith,he never seems to look troubled. But no one matches the theatre of an on-song KP. The bloke has played some of the most commanding innings I've ever see. Outrageous at times.

 

[Logan]

Pietersen ranked above a bunch of players of superior reputation -- Crowe, Laxman, Greenidge etc.

I saw both KP’s and VVS’ entire careers. KP was a much better batsman.

 

[Logan]

Has Flower been posted?

I reckon Andy Flower must be the second highest rated WK in the list.

 

[ankitj]

Yeah, on second thoughts. KP certainly better than Laxman.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Eh clearly better is a stretch. Laxman was good for far far longer.

 

[ataraxia]

Gooch above Simpson is rather interesting. He's next.

 

[Burgey]

Gonna be lovely when Clem Hill ranks above Allan Border.

Never mind

 

[mr_mister]

My Hill > Trumper theory finally proven correct

 

[ataraxia]

Top 10 prediction:

1. Bradman
2. Smith
3. Hobbs
4. Sobers
5. Hutton
6. Hammond
7. Barrington
8. Tendulkar
9. Sangakkara
10. Ponting

Hayden will also feature too high, alongside Sehwag around 15.

 

[h_hurricane]

My Hill > Trumper theory finally proven correct

With Hill out of the way now, it will be interesting to see which left handed Aussie batsman would come up highest in this list. Harvey,Border and Hayden left. I am voting for Hayden.

Edit: Hussey left too. Should be below Hayden though.