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3rd Test at Headingley, Leeds

trundler

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This is at least the 3rd time Cummins has choked this summer. Mentally weak. Stokes is as good as balanced all rounders come, like I said. Definitely the greatest innings I've seen. Surely as good as anything Botham or Miller ever did.

Did Australia bet against themselves again? Should be looked into by anti corruption bodies.
 
Maximas

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vcs said:
No, you can't call it a choke when he was single-handedly responsible for getting them there. Just a cruel outcome.
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At the moment it happened, he was in a good position to get them home, and should have done so, but made a poor decision (played a shot he'd avoided the whole innings off Lyon) at it would have cost them the game. Is that really not a choke? Or do you have to have it handed to you and then you **** it up at the last minute having slowly let it slip away?
 
GIMH

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Nah Australia choked enormously in the last five overs or so. Just lost it completely mentally, missed clear opportunities with awful decision making/basic skill execution (even if you discount Harris's catch as hard)
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That's not what he was saying though - he was saying it wouldn't have been a choke if Stokes had got out
 
vcs

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Spark said:
Nah Australia choked enormously in the last five overs or so. Just lost it completely mentally, missed clear opportunities with awful decision making/basic skill execution (even if you discount Harris's catch as hard)
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Australia definitely choked. Think Maximas was saying it would have been a choke by Stokes if he'd been given out LBW on that sweep.
 
Spark

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vcs said:
Australia definitely choked. Think Maximas was saying it would have been a choke by Stokes if he'd been given out LBW on that sweep.
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Ah, it's arguable tbf. I do think they briefly lost their heads there in that over, between that shot and the run out. Australia had just lost their heads even more!
 
OverratedSanity

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vcs said:
No, you can't call it a choke when he was single-handedly responsible for getting them there. Just a cruel outcome.
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Spark said:
Ah, it's arguable tbf. I do think they briefly lost their heads there in that over, between that shot and the run out. Australia had just lost their heads even more!
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Which goes to show really that this means so much to both sides that its literally impossible to actually hold your nerve sometimes and it's often a crapshoot who's going to end up winning the thing.
 
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Maximas said:
At the moment it happened, he was in a good position to get them home, and should have done so, but made a poor decision (played a shot he'd avoided the whole innings off Lyon) at it would have cost them the game. Is that really not a choke? Or do you have to have it handed to you and then you **** it up at the last minute having slowly let it slip away?
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Can't blame him for wanting to finish it off in that over.
 
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To be fair there’s no (or not much) relentless whining about one umpiring decision. Touring teams had 100 years of being sawn off in Australia and with the occasional exception accepted it as part of the game.
 
Spark

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OverratedSanity said:
Which goes to show really that this means so much to both sides that its literally impossible to actually hold your nerve sometimes and it's often a crapshoot who's going to end up winning the thing.
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Yeah in the end the margins were incredibly fine. Some of those sixes must have only cleared the fielder by a few feet
 
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That last ball from Cummins was rank too. Why couldn't they just go ODI mode and bowl yorker, yorker, yorker?
 
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