Daemon
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Says a lot that he’s still better than Bevan despite these shortcomingsWait I thought all Indians hated Dhoni now? That's what the world cup threads had been telling me.
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India Top Two ODI batsmen
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h_hurricane
International Vice-Captain
If Bevan was playing today and if he scores his trademark 45*(60) towards the end of the innings in a typical high scoring match, opposition would love him.
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
Saqlain > Murali
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
Era adjustments needed.
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
Nah. For me it's Dhoni. And it's a reasonable argument.
h_hurricane
International Vice-Captain
I believe Bevan would be scoring like that regardless of the era he played.
Daemon
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Careful, stephen will now bring out that one knock he played with a >100 SR against ROW or whatever it was
h_hurricane
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and PFK will era adjust that to 250*(132)
Borges
International Regular
What is all this argument all about? Bevan is the greatest batsman that walked this earth. And heavens.
His exalted story is the stuff of legends and mythology. A story worth repeating, ad nauseam, even at the core of a debate about the top two Indian ODI batsmen.
Bevan! Bevan!! Bevan!!! Repeat that hallowed name a thousand times, with devotion, and you will attain nirvana. Guaranteed.
His exalted story is the stuff of legends and mythology. A story worth repeating, ad nauseam, even at the core of a debate about the top two Indian ODI batsmen.
Bevan! Bevan!! Bevan!!! Repeat that hallowed name a thousand times, with devotion, and you will attain nirvana. Guaranteed.
Dhoni was better than Ponting in the noughties because he had a better average/SR combination?
That is like saying Dravid was as good as Lara in the 90s because they had similar averages.
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
In 90s, Dravid was inferior to Jadeja both in SR and AVG.. and jadeja was a nobody.
Thank you for reminding me of Lara, he was the 2nd best batsman of 90s .. not bevan.
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
When jadeja and Dravid played together
I meant tests.
If MS > Punter in 00s ODIs,
then Dravid = Lara in 90s Tests
Both ludicrous arguments.
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
Lara was capable of destroying opposition.. Dravid.. not.
Not same as Dhoni Vs Ponting.
stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Not really.
All it says is that the batsmen had different strengths. Rotating the strike and shepherding the tail in the mid to late overs before a late innings push to victory is a different skillset from opening and simply trying to score as many runs as you can as fast as you can.
From India's perspective, when Dhoni started, they had Sehwag and Tendulkar opening and so he couldn't bat there. His first hundred was from batting at 3. So Dhoni was never not capable of batting higher. But the team needed him to bat lower because he could do that.
In Bevan's first ODI, Australia played Taylor, Slater, M Waugh, Hayden, Langer and S Waugh. 5 guys who were specialist openers or where opening was their best position. And for the next match Australia brought back David Boon. Another top order player. On the four occasions he did bat in the top three he made 117 runs at an average just shy of 60. Given all 4 of those innings were against minnows and it's a sample size of 4 it doesn't mean much.
In both Bevan and Dhoni's cases I think they'd have been perfectly fine batting up the order, but both players were good at doing what few players can do, which is set their team up to win taking the least risks possible.
stephen
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I mean FFS look at this batting lineup Australia fielded:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...s-india-1st-sf-pepsi-austral-asia-cup-1993-94
Absurd.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...s-india-1st-sf-pepsi-austral-asia-cup-1993-94
Absurd.
Daemon
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Exactly, he was generally surplus to requirement.
You are still ignoring the number of years, the number of matches, the number of impact innings and many other factors.
MS averaged 50 at a Strike rate of 90 over a span of 5 years.
Ponting averaged almost the same, scored at almost the same rate over a span of 10 years.
