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India Top Two ODI batsmen

trundler

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Hurricane raises an interesting perspective. Is finishing the job of all rounders and keepers? Proper batsmen should man up and take things head on.
 

Burner

International Regular
Boring.

Tendulkar slapped the best bowlers and their new balls around for fun and scored hundreds at will. If he had the supporting cast of Bevan India would never lose. Just plain better.

Bevan only won like 20+ games for Australia chasing. Out of those maybe a third were from precarious situations. Thats fewer innings than Tendulkar scored hundreds in a year.
This is exactly my problem with the century deifference. Tendulkar scored 27 centuries in the time period, that is 27 games that were heavily influenced by him as a batsman. Bevan has 5. Bevan was inherently at a disadvantage because he was playing in a number that was way less influencing as a batsman.
 

h_hurricane

International Vice-Captain
Bowling equivalent of Tendulkar would be Mcgrath having figures of 10-0-36-4 while pricing out top order batsmen. Bowling equivalent of Bevan would be Symonds jacking up figures of 5-0-16-2 at the business end.

Just having a hearty laugh. Don't take it seriously :)
 

trundler

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Going through footage of previous WCs I'll say that Ponting's impact with the bat is undersold by his bare WC stats. Legend. 3rd best #3 in ODIs no doubt.
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Bowling equivalent of Tendulkar would be Mcgrath having figures of 10-0-36-4 while pricing out top order batsmen. Bowling equivalent of Bevan would be Symonds jacking up figures of 5-0-16-2 at the business end.

Just having a hearty laugh. Don't take it seriously :)
Not taking that seriously but a better analogy would be McGrath to Warne. Warne built his reputation on doing something nobody else could do in pressure situations. McGrath built his on being better than everyone else who was trying to do the same thing.
 

h_hurricane

International Vice-Captain
Not taking that seriously but a better analogy would be McGrath to Warne. Warne built his reputation on doing something nobody else could do in pressure situations. McGrath built his on being better than everyone else who was trying to do the same thing.
Unlike Symonds, Warne wouldn't be not out though, as he would complete his quota of overs on more occasions than not.
 

sunilz

International Regular
Odd Day : Bevan is better than Dhoni because he has higher batting average.
Even Day : Gilchrist is better than Dhoni because he has better strike rate.
 

stephen

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I've always maintained that between Gilchrist and Dhoni in ODIs, you'd pick the one that fills the hole in your team you want to fill. If you need a finisher, pick Dhoni. If you need an opener pick Gilchrist.

Bevan *as a batsman* was clearly better than Dhoni, just as Tendulkar *as a batsman* was clearly better than Gilchrist (though tbf the gap between those two is wider). It's only when you start taking secondary skills into account that you consider Dhoni over Bevan.
 

Daemon

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Dhoni was better as a batsman, cricketer and human being. Bevan was hot trash.
 

stephen

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Haha, this is beautiful tbh. Warne was very clearly behind Murali.
It's an analogy, it's not perfect. And note the language I used "did something nobody else could do in pressure situations". Nobody else could have dragged his side kicking and screaming back into the 99 world cup semi like Warne did.
 

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