Australian test selection 2018/19

[mr_mister]

I do notice the similar feeling I get to his batting and when Punter started.

Except Punter came into our strongest ever team and had to force his way into that above other legends like Martyn and Bevan..

 

[The Battlers Prince]

Except Punter came into our strongest ever team and had to force his way into that above other legends like Martyn and Bevan..

I just mean a young bloke who’s made runs, hasn’t got a lot of experience, however has excelled at the levels he has played at.

 

[mr_mister]

Oh okay. Thought you meant the landscape of Australian cricket lol

 

[aussie tragic]

Jhye Richardson has only bowled 5 overs in Test cricket so far, but imo he's already shown enough to be in the first Ashes Test

*If selectors pick on potential, why can't we

 

[sphynx]

Jhye Richardson has only bowled 5 overs in Test cricket so far, but imo he's already shown enough to be in the first Ashes Test

*If selectors pick on potential, why can't we

His skills are next level. I think he bowled maybe 2-3 loose deliveries in the first innings and under lights in those 2 overs, his groupings would of landed inside of a shoe box despite moving it in the air both ways.

I’m making an extremely early call, but along with Rabada I think he could be one of the best quicks of the next decade (Cummins probably still fits that criteria somewhat) based on what I’ve seen over the last month or so. He has an excellent FC record as well.

Aus simply don’t want to win the Ashes if he isn’t taking the new ball at Lords.

I compared him to a young Anderson in the other thread. Anderson in his last Ashes vs Richardson in his first could be awesome to watch.

 

[Starfighter]

Let's not get ahead ourselves here.

 

[sphynx]

im simply making an early call, I think his skills are next level from anyone I’ve seen recently. Especially out of Australia.

He doesn’t have the raw pace of Rabada/18 year old Cummins, but he clearly has complete control over a cricket ball, which is something we haven’t seen a lot, worldwide, in the last 20 years.

The norm has been 6”7, 145kph deck bowlers as a blueprint for most nations developing top line quicks.

This guy is a graduate of the dark arts of swing bowling, but looks to be very very accurate in his delivery, wrist and seam presentation looks textbook.

Exciting to see tbh.

 

[Spark]

early pattinson looked better. early pattinson looked as terrifying as any bowler I've ever seen. pace, movement, reasonable accuracy, intimidation.

I still strongly suspect that in the magical timeline where he stays fit, he's the best of the bunch and on the fast track to ATG status.

 

[sphynx]

early pattinson looked better. early pattinson looked as terrifying as any bowler I've ever seen. pace, movement, reasonable accuracy, intimidation.

I still strongly suspect that in the magical timeline where he stays fit, he's the best of the bunch and on the fast track to ATG status.

Yeah fair call.

I think Cummins in SA as a 18 year old and his spell to Kallis was better than both of them tbh.

I’m merely looking at how I think his skills will translate into his career more than anything. His action, shape, control etc is perfect for England and even SAF to an extent.

Considering Australia haven’t won in England in over 15 years, to have what looks like an absolute top line young swing bowler come out of the ranks is close to perfect for them.

I know he’s only playing SL, but I think he had 4-5 balls in that first innings that could of knocked over anyone in world cricket, looking at his ODI form against Kholi especially, I think he’s just got the intangibles.

 

[Spark]

yeah I think Richardson is definitely the real deal and was very happy to see him play this test. generally I very much like that his natural length seems ideal and he seems to rush the batsmen in that skiddy way anderson and harris do/did.

but fit patto is still the holy grail

 

[stephen]

Seeing Pattinson roll a very string Queensland batting lineup at AB Field just before he broke down two years ago was the most frighteningly quick I've seen a bowler bowl. The sound that the ball made as it pounded into the wicket was loud and energetic. It was extraordinary and he was making Tremain look pedestrian by comparison.

It's one of the reasons I've probably underrated Tremain over the years.

I'm hoping he comes good and gets back to his peak form.

 

[aussie tragic]

All of a sudden the Ashes top 5 is not looking too shabby

Warner 48.20
Burns 41.25
Khawaja 40.98
Smith 61.37
Head 46.46

Of course Khawaja is likely finished unless having a good test of shield, however Patterson looking good for keeping the #6 spot

 

[Gnske]

early pattinson looked better. early pattinson looked as terrifying as any bowler I've ever seen. pace, movement, reasonable accuracy, intimidation.

I still strongly suspect that in the magical timeline where he stays fit, he's the best of the bunch and on the fast track to ATG status.

I still don't know how his hat-trick ball to Ryder didn't castle the poor bastard.

 

[Spikey]

gonna be tough to fit both steve smith and marnus in

 

[trundler]

gonna be tough to fit both steve smith and marnus in

Don't think Steve has enough big thirties. You can argue that's offset by the pies though۔

 

[Gnske]

All of a sudden the Ashes top 5 is not looking too shabby

Warner 48.20
Burns 41.25
Khawaja 40.98
Smith 61.37
Head 46.46

Of course Khawaja is likely finished unless having a good test of shield, however Patterson looking good for keeping the #6 spot

Keep him at 6 for now too, I think he can be good value ballast.

 

[Starfighter]

Apparently Greg Chappell is quitting after the England tour. Theoretically this means fewer twinks in the national setup post-Ashes.

 

[stephen]

There was a really good piece on cricinfo about the Australian selection process and how at the top level the Australian thinking is that identifying and developing those once in a generation players is the only thing keeping Australian cricket on a par with much larger countries like India.

So I don't think it's just G Chappell that thinks that way.

I mean we all think that Burns is just warming the seat for Renshaw when he finally comes good and we all think that Paine is a temporary keeper and captain. Even though Burns is 29 and could cement his spot for years ala Hussey.

 

[Cow]

All of a sudden the Ashes top 5 is not looking too shabby

Warner 48.20
Burns 41.25
Khawaja 40.98
Smith 61.37
Head 46.46

Of course Khawaja is likely finished unless having a good test of shield, however Patterson looking good for keeping the #6 spot

Warner is done and will likely have some sort of breakdown during the pressure cooker Ashes environment.

Burns has only performed against a sri lankan attack that would struggle to get me out after 24 hours on the smash.

Stick a fork in Usman... he's done.

You can assume Smith will be good... though being justfiably banned for a year may affect his game.

Travis Head was awful in the ODI series in England.


Proof of the pudding...

 

[aussie tragic]

CA has arranged an Aus vs Aus-A 4 day game in Eng starting 23 July (1st Test starts 1 Aug). They stated this would be "the best 22 players available" so should rule out the typical A selections of giving potential young guys ago.

Assuming all of the current side would make the 22, who would you pick as the other 11?

Curremt side: Burns, Harris, Khawaja, Labuschagne, Head, Patterson, Paine, Cummins, Starc, Richardson, Lyon

My other 11 players

Warner, Renshaw, Hughes, Smith, Handscomb, Stoinis, Wade, Pattinson, Boland, Tremain, Hazlewood

Note: Smith and Warner to bowl spin as couldn't come up with a 2nd spinner. Maybe Holland?