SeamUp
International Coach
Never thought he was all that. If New Zealand had alternatives there is no way he is a lock.
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*Official* Pakistan v New Zealand in the UAE 2018
- Thread starter Fuller Pilch
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thundaboult
International Debutant
Seriously impressed with Ferguson. Seems to me that he has got more than just raw pace, he is accurate and deadly (almost literally) with the short stuff. Good, fast yorkers and he does get some shape as well. Most impressive thing is his variations. Just keeps learning and executing. Genuinely excited for him. A unit of Boult, Henry, Ferguson could be a nightmare for the batters in the cwc next year.....
Gutted for Milne, he did well in the T20's but Ferguson has bowled him out, no pun intended. I still dream of a Boult, Henry, Ferguson and Milne ODI/test/T20 bowling unit.....(pitch and weather conditions permitting)
I have a question though....and idk why no one talks about this...why in the hell is Scott Kuggelejin not getting a run in this team??? Quality bowler and effective with the bat in hand. He is a serious talent. NZ selection puzzles me....
Gutted for Milne, he did well in the T20's but Ferguson has bowled him out, no pun intended. I still dream of a Boult, Henry, Ferguson and Milne ODI/test/T20 bowling unit.....(pitch and weather conditions permitting)
I have a question though....and idk why no one talks about this...why in the hell is Scott Kuggelejin not getting a run in this team??? Quality bowler and effective with the bat in hand. He is a serious talent. NZ selection puzzles me....
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Kuggleijn is going to have to produce some Garry Sobers-esque all-round numbers to be picked for NZ. And I'm personally absolutely fine with that. I don't think he's anything we can't do without at international level.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Rained out in the UAE is incredibly unlucky.
Looks like we conceded too many runs and the batting would have struggled to maintain the tempo. Would've been interested in how Nicholls' innings went from 3.
Great for Ferguson to get a five fer, he's really come along and has def overtaken Milne amongst the quicks. Sodhi's confidence can't be high leading into the test series, has barely taken a wicket in the LO matches.
Looks like we conceded too many runs and the batting would have struggled to maintain the tempo. Would've been interested in how Nicholls' innings went from 3.
Great for Ferguson to get a five fer, he's really come along and has def overtaken Milne amongst the quicks. Sodhi's confidence can't be high leading into the test series, has barely taken a wicket in the LO matches.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
More conclusive evidence that you know SFA about cricket.
Moss
International Captain
Watched most of the Pakistan innings, NZ seemed to be pretty low on intensity considering this was a decider. Boult for example just didn't seem to suss out rhe conditions, bowled lots of short and wide ones. Ferguson was the opposite, cut down on the Wagner-esque bouncer barrage and varied his lines and lengths very well. The best part was he kept it up without tiring. He's come on really well since his debut two years ago.
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, Ferguson now has genuinely good ODI stats (even if his ER is a little high), unlike Milne who's still struggling to keep his average below 40. What's really impressive is that he was still thumping the ball through in the high 140's in the final over after a long hot day in the field. A couple of years ago he would've been struggling to crack 135 in those circumstances. Still needs to prove himself against countries more experienced at facing pace bowling (his numbers v AUS and SAF are miserable), but at this point he's got to be a first choice selection going into the world cup.
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nzfan
International Vice-Captain
I see Boult's gone for 80. That's quite expensive for a quality bowler like that. Was it bad bowling or good batting?
Lockie is a shoo in in one dayers. He's got to be playing as long as he's fit. He's got that x-factor.
There's plethora of fast bowlers in the country right now and some can bat very well too. I think spin bowling and batting is not good enough. Once Guptill is back is they have to absolutely play Munro then he needs to be batting at 6.
Lockie is a shoo in in one dayers. He's got to be playing as long as he's fit. He's got that x-factor.
There's plethora of fast bowlers in the country right now and some can bat very well too. I think spin bowling and batting is not good enough. Once Guptill is back is they have to absolutely play Munro then he needs to be batting at 6.
Who would that be, honest question. Australia are feeble, the sub-continent teams generally battle, England have a lot of guys who are suspect, you'd say only South Africa might have a handle on it as a general rule. I don't think anyone nowadays can say they've got a handle on 145km+ short stuff. Lochie has got a lot more to his armoury as well recently, I'm really impressed with how hard he's worked on his fitness clearly and how much more intelligent he is as a bowler. You'd have to say he's your 2nd choice seamer now behind Boult, did Henry bowl decently? I'd love to see him shove out Southee, although Henry is probably the worst death bowler we've had in years (anyone who says Mills gets a bullet).
And at this stage with a World Cup in what, 7-8 months time we should probably just presume Munro will be there as an opener. He has no real 50-over form to speak of but no one's going to make a move now, Latham is too valuable in the middle, we can just hope Manu comes off for a quick fire 30-40-50 ala Baz in 2015.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Concern with Ferguson re World Cup is that flat pitches + short boundaries and the batsman doesn't even need to be in control against the short ball - just get something on it and it's a boundary. I'd say it's a risk well worth taking though. Some good slower balls and if he can bowl at the death then that also covers for Henry, who shouldn't. Henry was decent with the new ball last night btw - nothing helpful in the pitch for him and drew a couple of edges.
Munro is irritating - we have very few other options and if he could transfer his T20I batting record (averages 33.60 at SR 161) to ODIs we'd take that in an instant, yet instead he continually fails as ODI opener.
Munro is irritating - we have very few other options and if he could transfer his T20I batting record (averages 33.60 at SR 161) to ODIs we'd take that in an instant, yet instead he continually fails as ODI opener.
Howsie
International Captain
Well I don’t know, I’d be keen to find someone who can actually bat tbh. I don’t want another Luke Ronchi situation where he’s just there because they refuse to give anyone else a go.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
*Man crush on Ferguson intensifies*
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
I'd like to see Neesham given a chance to open this summer. A side like this could go well at the World Cup:
Guptill
Neesham
Williamson
Taylor
Latham
De Grandhomme
Anderson
Santner
Henry
Ferguson
Boult
Guptill
Neesham
Williamson
Taylor
Latham
De Grandhomme
Anderson
Santner
Henry
Ferguson
Boult
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I kind of always thought they just made the wrong Colin open.