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South Africa team selection

Dendarii

Dendarii

International Debutant
Philander may have been dropped against Sri Lanka, but that was because the pitches there didn't suit him. For matches in South Africa there's no way he's not playing.
 
SeamUp

SeamUp

International Coach
JP Duminy is to have shoulder surgery and will miss Australia tour and Mzansi Super League.

Squad announced Thursday. Depart Tuesday.
 
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SeamUp

SeamUp

International Coach
Honestly didn't see re-calls for Behardien and D.Pretorius coming. Morris and Miller also back.

Proteas ODI squad: Faf du Plessis (Titans, capt), Farhaan Behardien (Titans), Quinton de Kock (Titans), Reeza Hendricks (Highveld Lions), Imran Tahir (Dolphins), Heinrich Klaasen (Titans), Aiden Markram (Titans), David Miller (Dolphins), Chris Morris (Titans), Lungisani Ngidi (Titans), Andile Phehlukwayo (Dolphins), Dwaine Pretorius Highveld Lions), Kagiso Rabada (Highveld Lions), Tabraiz Shamsi (Titans), Dale Steyn (Titans).
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Dendarii

Dendarii

International Debutant
Behardien is presumably in for Duminy. Pretorius is a bit of a surprise, so I guess it means that they haven't settled on who the allrounders for the World Cup are going to be.
 
Marius

Marius

International Debutant
Decent-ish squad I think, but let's see how they do against the Aussies first.

I hope Morris fires, our WC hopes lie with a quality all-rounder.

Just a thought, our best WC was probably 1999, and there we had two all-rounders playing out of their skin, Kallis and Klusener. Granted, a Klusener-type all-rounder (bowling all-rounder who hits a long ball) is more common than a Kallis type, but I wonder how important it is to have a proper all-rounder in your side to win a WC? Or am I talking nonsense now?
 
StephenZA

StephenZA

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Marius said:
Decent-ish squad I think, but let's see how they do against the Aussies first.

I hope Morris fires, our WC hopes lie with a quality all-rounder.

Just a thought, our best WC was probably 1999, and there we had two all-rounders playing out of their skin, Kallis and Klusener. Granted, a Klusener-type all-rounder (bowling all-rounder who hits a long ball) is more common than a Kallis type, but I wonder how important it is to have a proper all-rounder in your side to win a WC? Or am I talking nonsense now?
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Not nonsense. Quality allrounders are always required in the LO game; the 10 over limit per bowler in ODI's totally changes the complexion of a team. One of the reasons SA did so well with our LO's was our ODI team were always packed with allrounders. Since our quality allrounders retired we have struggled.

As for the current SA team (not counting Duminy as an allrounder) we can only afford one allrounder really; think we need to try bowl teams out with the strength of our bowling.
 
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Marius

Marius

International Debutant
StephenZA said:
Not nonsense. Quality allrounders are always required in the LO game; the 10 over limit per bowler in ODI's totally changes the complexion of a team. One of the reasons SA did so well with our LO's was our ODI team were always packed with allrounders. Since our quality allrounders retired we have struggled.

As for the current SA team (not counting Duminy as an allrounder) we can only afford one allrounder really; think we need to try bowl teams out with the strength of our bowling.
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Tom Moody from the 1999 World Cup also comes to mind here.

I reckon after the 1992 World Cup, that must be my favourite World Cup yet.
 
Dendarii

Dendarii

International Debutant
StephenZA said:
As for the current SA team (not counting Duminy as an allrounder) we can only afford one allrounder really; think we need to try bowl teams out with the strength of our bowling.
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I'd agree with that. While it obviously creates a bit of a tail, you'd have to think that our best team would be six batsmen, one allrounder and then Steyn, Rabada, Tahir, and Ngidi - that bowling line-up is going to have teams on the ropes more often than not.
 
SeamUp

SeamUp

International Coach
StephenZA said:
Click bait? Or else CSA/Gibson trying to convince him to come back for the WC?
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Desperate times call for desperate measures. I definitely see Gibson making one last plea and they came to the Jan agreement.

MSL, PSL & IPL the warm-up ? :D

PS Probably click-bait though ahaha
 
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StephenZA

StephenZA

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That probably killed Mulder's chances with Morris playing well. Duminy is probably a guarantee already with no other batsmen really showing more.
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

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For the role he was being groomed far -- batting 6/7 and bowling lots of overs in the middle -- Mulder is really an absolutely terrible ODI player at the moment. This is no slight on his talents or future prospects, but neither late order hitting nor tight, variable middle overs bowling are his thing. Maybe he can play the next World Cup batting four and bowling first change, but he's as bad at the role they've trialled him in as a discount young Kallis would be.
 
StephenZA

StephenZA

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Prince EWS said:
For the role he was being groomed far -- batting 6/7 and bowling lots of overs in the middle -- Mulder is really an absolutely terrible ODI player at the moment. This is no slight on his talents or future prospects, but neither late order hitting nor tight, variable middle overs bowling are his thing. Maybe he can play the next World Cup batting four and bowling first change, but he's as bad at the role they've trialled him in as a discount young Kallis would be.
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Yeah, pretty much... he is a potential proper top order batsmen that could be a good change bowler in Tests. Future use in LO`s will depend very much on his batting.

Andile has been the disappointment in LO's, he has shown his hitting capability; but his bowling has been acceptable but not great and if he plays in the LO's teams he needs to find a way to consistently contribute with the ball.
 
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