DoG's Top 100 Test Bowlers Countdown Thread 100-1

[Days of Grace]

No.40

Mohammad Asif (Pakistan) 749

Quality Points: 715
Career Points: 34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIeUxro50hM

Career: 2005-2010
Wickets: 106
Gold Performances: 2
6/44 vs. Sri Lanka at Kandy 2006 (15.62)
5/27 vs. Sri Lanka at Kandy 2006 (16.99)
Silver Performances: 2
Bronze Performances: 4

Overall Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 22.02 (24.37) 50.28 (48.78) 5.17
50 Innings Peak Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings (2005-2010): 22.02 50.28 5.17
Non-Home Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 20.51 47.16 5.56
Quality Opposition Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 22.55 51.53 4.97

Forever tainted by the spot-fixing scandal which ended his career, Mohammad Asif nevertheless has outstanding numbers across the board. A huge adjustment to his bowling average certainly helps him here. 20 of his 23 matches were against quality opposition (i.e. all opponents apart from New Zealand in 2009).

 

[smash84]

Asif was such a loss. He could toy with the batsmen like no other. I was wishing that he could return instead of Amir. sigh

 

[TheJediBrah]

True, but someone like Bishop didn't have many more wickets than Harris and ended up 50th or thereabouts.

Maybe he won't be in the list, but if not I'd be a bit disappointed, because I think he was better than many of the bowlers in the 50-100 range.

I dare asay Harris will be better than more than in a few in the 1-50 range as well.

 

[straw man]

Asif was such a loss. He could toy with the batsmen like no other. I was wishing that he could return instead of Amir. sigh

Abbas looks pretty much like a new non-fixing Asif

 

[Days of Grace]

No.39

Bob Willis (England) 749

Quality Points: 657
Career Points: 93

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTHIZVIDHiM

Career: 1971-1984
Wickets: 325
Gold Performances: 3
7/78 vs. Australia at Lord's 1977 (15.20)
8/43 vs. Australia at Leeds 1981 (21.79)
6/101 vs. India at Lord's 1982 (15.28)
Silver Performances: 6
Bronze Performances: 11

Overall Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 24.82 (25.20) 51.70 (53.41) 3.91
50 Innings Peak Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings (1976-1978): 20.11 45.97 4.91
Non-Home Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 26.89 58.94 3.01
Quality Opposition Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 25.81 49.48 4.09

A workhorse of a bowler, Bob Willis kept pounding in off an exceedingly long run-up for 13 years for England, garnering almost 100 career points. His average and strike-rates are just below ATG level and he loses points for not being as effective away from home (149 wickets in 49 matches). Nevertheless, he deserves his place in the top half of this list. And who can forget Headingley 1981?

1 SCJ Broad 8 15 Australia Nottingham 2015 22.75
2 JC Laker 10 53 Australia Manchester 1956 21.92
3 GD McGrath 8 24 Pakistan Perth 2004 21.85
4 RGD Willis 8 43 Australia Leeds 1981 21.79
5 JC Laker 9 37 Australia Manchester 1956 21.36
6 A Kumble 10 74 Pakistan Delhi 1999 20.88
7 RJ Hadlee 9 52 Australia Brisbane 1985 20.77
8 DW Steyn 6 8 Pakistan Johannesburg 2013 20.73
9 GA Lohmann 8 7 South Africa Port Elizabeth 1896 20.41
10 JM Patel 9 69 Australia Kanpur 1959 20.15

 

[stephen]

I forget headingly 1981. I was a few years away from being born.

 

[Burgey]

Abbas looks pretty much like a new non-fixing Asif

That we know of.

 

[ankitj]

Abbas looks pretty much like a new non-fixing Asif

No matter what you do you can't stop Pakistanis from producing great fast bowlers.

 

[ankitj]

Johnson, Harris and Jadeja are trolling us now. May be Jadeja won't make it at all.

 

[OverratedSanity]

No.40

Mohammad Asif (Pakistan) 749

Quality Points: 715
Career Points: 34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIeUxro50hM

Career: 2005-2010
Wickets: 106
Gold Performances: 2
6/44 vs. Sri Lanka at Kandy 2006 (15.62)
5/27 vs. Sri Lanka at Kandy 2006 (16.99)
Silver Performances: 2
Bronze Performances: 4

Must be one of the highest rated match performances

 

[Starfighter]

No matter what you do you can't stop Pakistanis from producing great fast bowlers.

I actually think this is a bit of a myth. If you look there are three that people would consider genuine greats (Imran, Waqar, Wasim), a couple of people who you could consider potential greats but many wouldn't (Asif, Shoaib) and one medium-fast bowler who stands a bit apart from the others (Fazal). While three-six is more than India of course it's not like they've had a West Indies style production line of great, genuinely quick bowlers. And as we discovered doing the ATG XIs recently they have very few people in the good/very good (26-29) sort of range. We shall see how Abbas' career progresses before making a definite judgement.

 

[Burgey]

No matter what you do you can't stop Pakistanis from producing great fast bowlers.

As everyone knows, this is because there are no vegetarians in Pakistan, whereas the entire population of India is banned from eating steak.

 

[ankitj]

I actually think this is a bit of a myth. If you look there are three that people would consider genuine greats (Imran, Waqar, Wasim), a couple of people who you could consider potential greats but many wouldn't (Asif, Shoaib) and one medium-fast bowler who stands a bit apart from the others (Fazal). While three-six is more than India of course it's not like they've had a West Indies style production line of great, genuinely quick bowlers. And as we discovered doing the ATG XIs recently they have very few people in the good/very good (26-29) sort of range. We shall see how Abbas' career progresses before making a definite judgement.

I am speaking as a jealous neighbor of course. Look at our crop of fast bowlers.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I speaking as a jealous neighbor of course. Look at our crop of fast bowlers.

Tbf, India have an actually OK bowling lineup now. Probably better than Pakistan's at the moment.

 

[stephen]

I speaking as a jealous neighbor of course. Look at our crop of fast bowlers.

We're going to get a good long look at them this summer.

 

[Jarquis]

Ambrose, Anderson, Ashwin, Barnes, Botham, Cowie, Davidson, Donald, Fazal, Garner, Grimmett, Hadlee, Harris, Herath, Holding, Imran, Ironmonger, Johnson, Kumble, Laker, Lillee, Marshall, McGrath, Muralitharan, O'Reilly, Philander, Pollock, Rabada, Steyn, Tayfield, Trueman, Walsh, Waqar, Warne, Wasim.

No Jadeja or Shoaib or Lohmann or a few others in that list. Room for a few more though.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Chaminda vaas

 

[Days of Grace]

Must be one of the highest rated match performances

Close, but not quite.

Here is the top 20 match performances from those I have checked:

1 JC Laker 19 90 Australia Manchester 1956 43.28
2 ND Hirwani 16 136 West Indies Chennai 1988 38.64
3 Harbhajan Singh 15 217 Australia Chennai 2001 37.02
4 RAL Massie 16 137 England Lord's 1972 36.20
5 FR Spofforth 14 90 England The Oval 1882 35.69
6 JM Patel 14 124 Australia Kanpur 1959 35.66
7 MA Noble 13 77 England Melbourne 1902 35.65
8 H Verity 15 104 Australia Lord's 1934 35.45
9 CA Walsh 13 55 New Zealand Wellington 1995 35.34
10 GA Lohmann 15 45 South Africa Port Elizabeth 1896 35.30
11 Sir RJ Hadlee 15 123 Australia Brisbane 1985 34.77
12 W Rhodes 15 124 Australia Melbourne 1904 34.51
13 DW Steyn 11 60 Pakistan Johannesburg 2013 34.39
14 Harbhajan Singh 13 196 Australia Kolkata 2001 34.27
15 MA Holding 14 149 England The Oval 1976 34.19
16 J Briggs 15 28 South Africa Cape Town 1889 34.09
17 SNJ O'Keefe 12 70 India Pune 2017 34.03
18 SF Barnes 17 159 South Africa Johannesburg 1913 33.99
19 C Blythe 15 99 South Africa Leeds 1907 33.64
20 Fazal Mahmood 12 99 England The Oval 1954 33.38

 

[Days of Grace]

Chaminda vaas

Haha, do people even read the thread back a few pages? I feel I need to post the list every single page.

 

[morgieb]

O'Keefe at Pune > anything Warne did

System proves its validity.