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*Official* India Tour of England 2018

Borges

Borges

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Oh, Miyagi! What do you have to say about Bumrah being out of action? Do you think that Buttler et al. will make hay while the sun shines?
 
Mr Miyagi

Mr Miyagi

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Borges said:
Oh, Miyagi! What do you have to say about Bumrah being out of action? Do you think that Buttler et al. will make hay while the sun shines?
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I think it is a huge blow for India in the field. Bumrah is irreplaceable as a death specialist and the best in the world at it right now (- and BK would have likely played anyway, which means the replacement in the team isn't one of the two best Indian death options - and Bumrah is clearly the number 1 option).

It would have been great to see if Buttler had got his scoop out to Bumrah at the death, and as cricket fans - we now all miss out on that opportunity.

There was talk above of Yadav replacing him, but he played most the IPL bowling out early as a non-death bowling option. So India may have to reassess their game plan after this injury.
 
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Borges

Borges

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Thank you.

Mr Miyagi said:
There was talk above of Yadav replacing him, but he played most the IPL bowling out early as a non-death bowling option. So India may have to reassess their game plan after this injury.
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What about Sid Kaul? Do you think he would be reasonable at the death?
 
Daemon

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Any chance Bumrah might be back for the ODIs? It's a left finger and could just be a ligament injury.
 
vcs

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With the roads they play the limited overs games on in England nowadays, Bumrah will be a huge miss. Very good news for England.
 
Mr Miyagi

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Borges said:
Thank you.



What about Sid Kaul? Do you think he would be reasonable at the death?
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Compared to Bumrah? No. Not at all.

I don't want to make any bold predictions for the success or failure of Kaul, he played well in the best bowling unit in the IPL - and this helped him a lot. Is he going to continue to get better? I don't know.

I do like his headband though. Makes me wanna 'rock out'.
 
R

R!TTER

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vcs said:
With the roads they play the limited overs games on in England nowadays, Bumrah will be a huge miss. Very good news for England.
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You have to wonder then - was the injury really that bad or did Bumrah wanted to avoid being carted around in T20's also considering he's not been all that great in LO against good batsmen in the past year or so, including the CT meltdown.
 
Mr Miyagi

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R!TTER said:
You have to wonder then - was the injury really that bad or did Bumrah wanted to avoid being carted around in T20's also considering he's not been all that great in LO against good batsmen in the past year or so, including the CT meltdown.
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This would make more sense to me if Bumrah used the pitch more often.

But he doesn't. I'd take Bumrah's yorkers with me everywhere, especially on glass pitches.
 
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Mr Miyagi said:
This would make more sense to me if Bumrah used the pitch more often.

But he doesn't.
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That's a good point but he's not exactly a yorker specialist like Starc or even Rabada, his other go to ball in LO is the slower one - which frankly isn't all that deceptive, you just have to follow his action properly.
I'd take Bumrah's yorkers with me everywhere, especially on glass pitches.
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Like I said he's not that good with the yorker, it's a myth actually he bowls deadly at the back end. You can see any number of games against decent opposition, & while he's really good it isn't because of the yorker IMO.
 
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Mr Miyagi

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R!TTER said:
That's a good point buthe's not exactly a yorker specialist like Starc or even Rabada, his other go to ball in LO is the slower one - which frankly isn't all that deceptive, you just have to follow his action properly.
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Oh I disagree entirely. I wouldn't even include Rabada yet in the discussion of yorker death bowlers.
 
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vcs

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R!TTER said:
You have to wonder then - was the injury really that bad or did Bumrah wanted to avoid being carted around in T20's also considering he's not been all that great in LO against good batsmen in the past year or so, including the CT meltdown.
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With the competition to get into the team, Indian players don't have the luxury of feigning injury to "protect their stats".

Champions Trophy aside, he's been excellent for us.
 
Mr Miyagi

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R!TTER said:
Like I said he's not that good with the yorker, it's a myth actually he bowls deadly at the back end. You can see any number of games against decent opposition, & while he's really good it isn't because of the yorker IMO.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap1KuREwliI


Slower ball is often used by Bumrah in India on slower pitches, look what he used on Australian roads.

If its slow, he will bowl more change ups, but on roads, he goes to the yorker even more than normal (which is a lot).
 
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R!TTER

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Mr Miyagi said:
Oh I disagree entirely. I wouldn't even include Rabada yet in the discussion of yorker death bowlers.
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I'm talking about the ability to bowl good yorkers, under presuure, to good batters. In that Rabada is second to none, not even Starc. His yorkers, even in tests are deadly.
vcs said:
With the competition to get into the team, Indian players don't have the luxury of feigning injury to "protect their stats".

Champions Trophy aside, he's been excellent for us.
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He's been preferred over established guys like Yadav (who was the best pacer in India over 2 seasons) & Shami, even in tests so you're wrong on that one. Not exactly feigning injury but perhaps being overcautious &/or protecting one's stats/ form before the main leg of the tour starts?
 
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Mr Miyagi said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap1KuREwliI


Slower ball is often used by Bumrah in India on slower pitches, look what he used on Australian roads.

If its slow, he will bowl more change ups, but on roads, he goes to the yorker even more than normal (which is a lot).
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You do remember that it's his debut series 2.5yrs back when he was an unknown entity? Also WI aren't exactly great anymore, neither is Bangladesh.
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Gtfo Ritter :laugh:
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What part of frecency do you guys not get?
 
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Mr Miyagi

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Mr Miyagi said:
You do realize who the reigning WT20 champs are?

That Gayle of WI bowled is probably this game right here:

2nd Semi-Final (N), World T20 at Mumbai, Mar 31 2016 | Match Summary | ESPNCricinfo
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Isn't it the same game where a 38 year old Nehra outbowled him, like massively? So there's two high pressure games where he flopped, gave away 25 in 2 against WI at the death & the other one last year at CT final.
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The squiggly line underneath it part. ;)

Don't make typos on phrases like that.
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I fully understand what frecency is. Also yorkers matter, but they matter so much more in high pressure games like a certain WC final 3rd ball IIRC?
 
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