***Official*** England in New Zealand 2018

[jimmy101]

Indeed, Boult is well respected here.

Btw how about Williamson's catch to dismiss Broad? What a beauty. One of the best I've seen.

Woakes received an absolute peach too.

 

[Flem274*]

No, although the FTP was made in 2014 so the numbers are guaranteed to change at least.

Even with the CWC taking place not long after, NZ having 8 tests, 11 ODIs and only 5 t20s during the 18/19 summer seems like the real joke.

that's actually a reasonable schedule by nz standards if that's october 18 - march 19. we're used to worse.

 

[vcs]

Boult seems almost embarrassed to celebrate his wickets. I can't imagine him ever sledging anyone. Brilliant bowler though.

 

[Black_Warrior]

If that spell doesn't raise Boult & Southee's stock around here then nothing will

Boult is well respected here..just Burgey trolls him because of Starc

 

[Gnske]

that's actually a reasonable schedule by nz standards if that's october 18 - march 19. we're used to worse.

Mmh I know, but it feels like David White will make some amendments in due course.

Pakistan and Sri Lanka will be one hell of an expensive delicacy to feed to the spectators though.

 

[jimmy101]

Boult is well respected here..just Burgey trolls him because of Starc

He must be jealous right about now ;-) Gonna be pretty hard for anyone to troll big Trent for a while.

 

[Athlai]

Are there still whispers we may get the Boxing Day test in Australia?

 

[Moss]

Pretty sure England batted out in the second innings to save a test match in the 2013 series too..although they scored way more than 58. Probably around 170.

You're (partially) right, they got to safety in both the first and third tests of that series after posting 150-200 scores in their first innings. I brought up Mohali 1999 because then too NZ rolled over a big side on day one for a double figure score, but couldn't bat them out of the game:
1st Test, New Zealand tour of India at Chandigarh, Oct 10-14 1999 | Match Summary | ESPNCricinfo

England are quite capable of clawing back of course, not writing them off.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Are there still whispers we may get the Boxing Day test in Australia?

This year? India touring Australia this summer mate.

 

[Black_Warrior]

You're (partially) right, they got to safety in both the first and third tests of that series after posting 150-200 scores in their first innings. I brought up Mohali 1999 because then too NZ rolled over a big side on day one for a double figure score, but couldn't bat them out of the game:
1st Test, New Zealand tour of India at Chandigarh, Oct 10-14 1999 | Match Summary | ESPNCricinfo

England are quite capable of clawing back of course, not writing them off.

I think the 2013 side was a lot stronger.. It was in many ways the same side from a few years ago when they won the away Ashes and beat India 4-0 to become number 1. The only difference was that some of the players were a bit past their prime.

This is a markedly inferior side. Of course they can still come back but if New Zealand take like a 400 run lead, I don't see this side batting out 2 days for a draw.

 

[_Ed_]

This year? India touring Australia this summer mate.

2019. Just sounds like NZC has reservations about losing revenue from hosting our own games in that period. But I hope it happens.

 

[SeamUp]

Genuinely, though, even though he signed that two-year contract or whatever, is this the kind of disaster we need to get rid of Bayliss at test coach and generally change our approach to test cricket as is long overdue? I'm actually ok with the occasional horror show we have in ODIs since I think it's a price worth paying for how much better we've become in that format, but this is just unacceptable.

Not to take away from the bowling which from the little snippets I've seen was excellent, but I don't think it was a 58-all-out bowling performance (I'd be tempted to say there's almost no such thing) but basically we've taken our somewhat prevalent theme of the past few years of generally not knowing what to do in the face of testing conditions/situations to an embarrassing new low. If nothing else we need to learn from this.

The odd thing is a loss in a 2 test series seems forgettable more than if it was a proper series like 3 tests.

Still lots of cricket to be played but I agree it needs more than just selectors changed and talent identification. We've seen what Bayliss brings as a coach over a period of time now.

The big question is who though ?

Seems less cricket coaches around these days.

 

[OverratedSanity]

When's India touring next? Shouldn't there be a tour in the next year or so? It's been around 5 years since the last one.

 

[vcs]

Hope we play 3 Tests. The 2014 series was a cracker, after they'd thrashed us in the ODIs.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I think I remember the tour being cancelled. Hope not... love watching NZ tests.

 

[Black_Warrior]

2019. Just sounds like NZC has reservations about losing revenue from hosting our own games in that period. But I hope it happens.

I'm not sure if this has changed now but as per the old FTP, Pakistan and West Indies are touring Australia for Summer 2019 (6 tests)

When's India touring next? Shouldn't there be a tour in the next year or so? It's been around 5 years since the last one.

India are supposed to play 5 ODIs in New Zealand after their Australia tour in Feb 2019 but no Tests on the pipeline for now

 

[harsh.ag]

Kohli will make tests happen in NZ.

#SOTC #SaviourOfTestCricket

 

[Cabinet96]

Steyn's only played 9 tests in 3 years. :'(

Broke down early in three of those as well.

 

[Stapel]

England are quite capable of clawing back of course, not writing them off.

We've seen stranger things in cricket / nothing as volatile as a cricket match / cricket is a funny game. All true.

But the way I see it, only rain can save England from this point.

 

[Shri]

lol england