*Official* Australia v England post-Ashes ODI series

[Cabinet96]

Still hilarious that the ICC made him umpire of the year in 2012.

 

[NotMcKenzie]

Well, if the reward is for the most noteworthy decision(s) made...

 

[Spark]

That cricinfo commentary seriously undersells just how bad a decision it was. In particular it doesn't note the huge gap between bat and ball.

 

[Redbacks]

Leaving out Maxwell has been a massive dud call.

Cummins is a crap ODI bowler but you can only assume the selectors think his natural talent will sort it out over time as he learns on the job.

 

[quincywagstaff]

Cummins is a crap ODI bowler but you can only assume the selectors think his natural talent will sort it out over time as he learns on the job.

He's already played 38 matches; you'd think if he knew how to become a smart one-day bowler he would've done so by now.

But importantly, is it worth it to continue to persist with him in the hope that he'll maybe become a better one-day bowler? He's far more valuable as a Test bowler and surely there are other bowlers they could try instead of Cummins to back up Starc and Hazlewood.

 

[ImpatientLime]

they do the same with pattinson when he is actually fit too, no? superb red ball bowler, trash white ball bowler.

 

[Prince EWS]

they do the same with pattinson when he is actually fit too, no? superb red ball bowler, trash white ball bowler.

That's a bit of an exaggerated comparison though. Cummins hasn't bowled very well in this series and it may be true that a more specialist LO bowler could be a better call come the World Cup, but his LO record both internationally and domestically has been fine. He's definitely had some good games (I remember him being really impressive in this losing cause, for example: 4th ODI, Australia tour of England and Ireland at Leeds, Sep 11 2015 | Match Summary | ESPNCricinfo), and overall and he's averaging under 30 and going at under 6rpo in 38 ODIs which is perfectly good, even accounting for his poor performances in these last two games. Pattinson was always just kinda **** at white ball cricket -- occasionally decent in domestic 50 over games when he could bowl aggressively with the new bal.. but sometimes not picked Victoria despite that, regularly smashed in domestic T20s, smashed in ODIs and smashed in T20Is.

 

[stephen]

I think Cummins will get better and I think that CA are looking for him to be a 3+ World Cup bowler for Australia. He'll be 24, 28 and 32 at the next 3 world cups which are all good ages for a quick. So I think they're banking on him being a long term prospect.

Honestly he probably is our 3rd best ODI quick right now. At least while Behrendorff/NCN are out injured.

Australia's injured pace bowlers:

Pattinson
Behrendorff
Coulter-Nile

Would make a pretty decent attack.

 

[S.Kennedy]

because it's readily apparent from so many examples that fielders don't always know if a ball has carried, particularly when they're diving forward. This example was by no means as blatant as Strauss 2009, the Dhoni unarguable cheat off Pietersen at Lord's or that Clarke one in an ODI against NZ about ten years ago.

I'm not buying that in this example. A blatant bit of cheating as I've ever seen.

 

[Adders]

Anyway, how ****ing good is it to have some real cricket to watch again? Seems like the warm ups for these ODI's went on forever......

 

[S.Kennedy]

All we need now is to switch ''the Ashes'' from the tests to the one-dayers.

 

[TheJediBrah]

All we need now is to switch ''the Ashes'' from the tests to the one-dayers.

or do what the women do and make it a combination

 

[S.Kennedy]

or do what the women do and make it a combination

My main problem with that is the test team struggle in some titanic clash which we've not really had for some time and then Jason Roy or Aaron Finch paddle scoops the team to the Ashes in a twenty20. Who gets the medals?

 

[TheBrand]

Still think the worst 3rd umpire decision ever made was the Nathan Lyon dismissal against NZ in the first D/N test. Nigel Llong I believe?

 

[Adders]

Haha i remember that.......Ian Smith going off his nut on comms.

 

[digiosmosis]

According to Law 42.3 states players are allowed to “polish the ball provided that no artificial substance is used”.
https://twitter.com/TheBarmyArmy/status/954998733514551296
Was Steven Smith actually tampering?

 

[Furball]

Probably under the letter of the law.

I find it very hard to muster up a single **** whenever anyone complains about ball tampering. The laws that govern it are ****ing stupid.

 

[Burgey]

Maxwell called in for the injured Arun Finch.

 

[S.Kennedy]

I always thought they came as a twosome, Finch and Maxwell. They came over together as Yorkshire's overseas Twenty20 players one season (you're allowed two overseas per team in the Twenty20) and then I discovered they both play for Victoria.

Like ehh Ant and Dec.

 

[stephen]

Hmm if Finch is injured our batting looks incredibly weak