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***Official*** Australia in Bangladesh 2017

Daemon

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Lyon with a cheap tailender wicket has brought some normalcy back to what's been a very weird innings.
 

mr_mister

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how good has Lyon been this year in Asia

Form of his life. Wonder if he'l be able to make an impact during the Ashes
 

DanJamson

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hmmm.. sounds like a consensus from the guys watching the game but DanJamson seems to think its a good enough score. A lot depends on the BD spinners now. And of course, The Chump and Warner for Australia. Wade gonna make a few and save his place and then drive the entirety of the CW Aussie community to despair during the Ashes. :p
Gareth Batty was taking wickets here... an indication that it's not the easiest pitch to go big on.
 

Burgey

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how good has Lyon been this year in Asia

Form of his life. Wonder if he'l be able to make an impact during the Ashes
He's changed his pace and has undercut the ball a lot more in Asia. Read an article he said he watched Ashwin and realised bowling ugly,non-spinning, round arm filth is the way to take wickets in Asia, whereas in Australia you actually need to think about it and put over spin on the ball.

I may have paraphrased that a bit.
 

cnerd123

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He's changed his pace and has undercut the ball a lot more in Asia. Read an article he said he watched Ashwin and realised bowling ugly,non-spinning, round arm filth is the way to take wickets in Asia, whereas in Australia you actually need to think about it and put over spin on the ball.

I may have paraphrased that a bit.
takes a real man to go against everything he believes in order to do what it takes for his team to win

I'd like to see a fast bowler make these sacrifices
 

DanJamson

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He's changed his pace and has undercut the ball a lot more in Asia. Read an article he said he watched Ashwin and realised bowling ugly,non-spinning, round arm filth is the way to take wickets in Asia, whereas in Australia you actually need to think about it and put over spin on the ball.

I may have paraphrased that a bit.
Smith criticized him after the Sri Lanka debacle. All credit to him for making the adjustments.
 

Burgey

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I saw he's averaging about 20 odd on the SC in the last 12 months which is excellent for a visiting spinner.
 

cnerd123

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FIIIZZZZZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Rahim with a stunner behind the stumps. Wade and Mushy have gone from awful to pretty good in the space of one match it seems


Alright boys, this is the big wicket. Get Smith out and we're bossing it.
 

honestbharani

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He's changed his pace and has undercut the ball a lot more in Asia. Read an article he said he watched Ashwin and realised bowling ugly,non-spinning, round arm filth is the way to take wickets in Asia, whereas in Australia you actually need to think about it and put over spin on the ball.

I may have paraphrased that a bit.

TBH, I dont think he was that impressive in India. I have not watched this series so cannot comment but in India, he was picking up wickets but never really seemed to be threatening to be a match winner. And the whole overspin Vs sidespin thingy is over rated. You need to be able to do both to a certain level to succeed in any kind of wicket. Its just that sidespin helps a lot more when the wickets are drier than on harder and truer wickets. If anything, I think Lyon's style can still do a job in the SC while Ashwin's style maybe totally unsuited for Aus and RSA wickets and some wickets in England.


Also, I think we have got some bloody fine finger spinners going around in world cricket today. People (Burgey) are just too harsh on some of the greatest current cricketers and one of the greatest art forms in all of cricket. :p
 

Burgey

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TBH, I dont think he was that impressive in India. I have not watched this series so cannot comment but in India, he was picking up wickets but never really seemed to be threatening to be a match winner. And the whole overspin Vs sidespin thingy is over rated. You need to be able to do both to a certain level to succeed in any kind of wicket. Its just that sidespin helps a lot more when the wickets are drier than on harder and truer wickets. If anything, I think Lyon's style can still do a job in the SC while Ashwin's style maybe totally unsuited for Aus and RSA wickets and some wickets in England.


Also, I think we have got some bloody fine finger spinners going around in world cricket today. People (Burgey) are just too harsh on some of the greatest current cricketers and one of the greatest art forms in all of cricket. :p
Rubbish. He was awesome. Five gets you ten Ashwin and Jadeja don't take the wickets he did in India between them when they tour Australia. Finger spin is a terrible form of delivering the ball to a batsman (it's not really bowling tbh), it's just Lyon is the best going around at it.

That's a great catch. Fantastic really. Terible ball, **** way to get out, strangled off a rank delivery.
 
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honestbharani

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Rubbish. He was awesome. Five gets you ten Ashwin and Jadeja don't take the wickets he did in India between them when they tour Australia.

That's a great catch. Fantastic really. Terible ball, **** way to get out, strangled off a rank delivery.

But what sort of a bet is that? If you give ten on five that Umesh, Shami and the Indian seamers dont take the number of wickets in Aus that Lyon did in India, its actually reasonable. :laugh:


EDIT: On Lyon on India, I am pretty sure I made the point in the tour thread but he was bowling well without threatening to take the game away, like SoK did in Pune. There is a difference. There is a method to play him there for the Indian batsmen that they could go to. He was still the better spinner than SoK and more consistent. I am not taking anything away from him here.
 
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Burgey

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But what sort of a bet is that? If you give ten on five that Umesh, Shami and the Indian seamers dont take the number of wickets in Aus that Lyon did in India, its actually reasonable. :laugh:
TBF that's probably a safer bet from my POV than betting against Ashwin and Jadeja.
 

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