***Official*** Australia in Bangladesh 2017

[pdsubbu]

87 runs lead - oh yes ! Make it 400..

 

[Gnske]

A real battle of the bald going on between these two spinners.

If Agar wasn't left handed they'd be indistinguishable from behind with those heads.

 

[Howe_zat]

In the fourth innings in Asia, this decade, Australia batsmen as a whole average 17. Despite that, Steve Smith averages 45.

 

[GotSpin]

We're not ****ed yet...but jeeze, its not far away.

He might cop some flak on here, but i actually dont mind old Brendan Julian in the fox sports commentary box

 

[M0rphin3]

BTW, Shakib now has a 5fer against all test playing nations. Don't know how since he apparently never plays the big teams.

And the fastest to get there. WAFG. IDK why people are still reluctant to rate him as the qualiteh player that he is.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

And the fastest to get there. WAFG. IDK why people are still reluctant to rate him as the qualiteh player that he is.

Only reason is because he plays for a lesser nation, if he was an Aussie Burgey would love him and rave about his stats.

 

[stephen]

If Shakib was an Aussie he would barely be bowled. He's only taken so many wickets because his teammates have not been test standard, much like Smith compared to the rest of Australia's batting in the subcontinent.

 

[M0rphin3]

Only reason is because he plays for a lesser nation, if he was an Aussie Burgey would love him and rave about his stats.

Totally. He's judged by such absurd standards to discredit his awesomeness.

 

[harsh.ag]

If Shakib was an Aussie he would barely be bowled. He's only taken so many wickets because his teammates have not been test standard, much like Smith compared to the rest of Australia's batting in the subcontinent.

Impressive amount of of wrong to fit in two sentences.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Shakib bowled as well today as he has for ages and he has proper support at the other end now in Mehedi who is the real WPNCOS and as a pair they will cause all sides problems in Bangladesh for many years to come. Add in the fact they have 3 or 4 good bats and a proper pace bowler then they are a rapidly improving side who will give lots of sides a real game.

 

[M0rphin3]

If Shakib was an Aussie he would barely be bowled. He's only taken so many wickets because his teammates have not been test standard, much like Smith compared to the rest of Australia's batting in the subcontinent.

Lmao, clearly you've not followed Shakib at all or is again suffering from the 'he's a bangaboi so he gotta suck' syndrome. At the very least, check his 5fers out, almost all (if not all) of them were not just some Krejza-esque 200-8 or some **** like that. In most cases, they've just not been able to wrap up any of those matches coz of their weak ass batting is all.

Ya wish Shakib was an Aussie

 

[stephen]

Impressive amount of of wrong to fit in two sentences.

I'm not saying he's a bad bowler or anything, but I could barely see him bowled if he played for Australia and had to come in behind 3 quality seamers and a better spinner.

The guy bowls more overs than anyone else for the Bangas but he'd be lucky to get more than 10 overs per innings for some other nations. Or he would bat at 7 as the main spinner and never get the chance to average much higher than 30. Shakib's all-round accomplishments are only really possible because he plays for a side that needs him to bat top 6, doesn't have decent bowlers and plays on a lot of tracks that suit his style of bowling. Were he Australian he would have started as a spinning all rounder and become a specialist batsman.

 

[Howe_zat]

Shakib's all-round accomplishments are only really possible because he plays for a side that needs him to bat top 6, doesn't have decent bowlers and plays on a lot of tracks that suit his style of bowling. Were he Australian he would have started as a spinning all rounder and become a specialist batsman.

I generally agree, though I don't think that's to Austraia's credit. I don't think they've had a better spinner than Shakib since Warne retired.

In any case, the fact that Shakib's unique circumstances are what they are is no detraction from what he's accomplished. There's not many cricketers who have it in them to prop up a fledgling team for a decade.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

I'm not saying he's a bad bowler or anything, but I could barely see him bowled if he played for Australia and had to come in behind 3 quality seamers and a better spinner.

Name a better spinner Australia have had in Shakib's career then?

 

[M0rphin3]

Cricinfo - Statsguru - Shakib Al Hasan - Test Bowling - Innings by innings list

7/36 (NZ)
6/82 (Pak)
6/99 (SA)
5/62 (Ind)
5/70 (SL)
5/85 (Eng)

Yup, clearly wouldn't have bowled much for Aussies

And btw I've watched him bowl in all the above matches and he's qualiteh.

 

[mr_mister]

burgey arent you a lawyer? surely you can afford foxtel

 

[MW1304]

Were he Australian...

I really don't care for this kind of argument. He's not Australian, so don't judge him by some standard he can't reasonably be measured against but judge him instead by what he's actually done. Were David Warner from anywhere other than Australia he wouldn't have made it to Test cricket. Only Shakib has performed in different parts of the world with bat and ball over limited opportunity, so...what's the point exactly?

 

[Daemon]

I'm not saying he's a bad bowler or anything, but I could barely see him bowled if he played for Australia and had to come in behind 3 quality seamers and a better spinner.

The guy bowls more overs than anyone else for the Bangas but he'd be lucky to get more than 10 overs per innings for some other nations. Or he would bat at 7 as the main spinner and never get the chance to average much higher than 30. Shakib's all-round accomplishments are only really possible because he plays for a side that needs him to bat top 6, doesn't have decent bowlers and plays on a lot of tracks that suit his style of bowling. Were he Australian he would have started as a spinning all rounder and become a specialist batsman.

If he was Australian he'd be playing over Lyon and taking all the cheap wickets that Lyon gets gifted to him when his quicks are done with 90% of the business.

 

[cnerd123]

Shakib's strike rate is 65.6, right up there with some of the finest spinners of all time

If his wickets were purely a result of bowling loads of overs he'd have a much higher strike rate.

 

[Daemon]

Oh and he'd have debuted ages ago when the likes of Krejza, Beer and Hauritz were all Australia had, and Lyon would rarely if ever get a look in because Shakib would allow Australia to play 4 quicks and they'd never let that opportunity pass.