*** Official*** South Africa in England 2017

[morgieb]

Rashid definitely benefitting here from the boost to his abilities that occurs when someone's not in the team...

Yes Dawson probably isn't good enough for the team but he deserves a chance to show that, something Rashid has already shown.

Rashid can at least have bowling spells that has a significant influence. Dawson hasn't shown that AFAIC.

 

[fredfertang]

I'm far from convinced Rashid would be any more use than Dawson in a home Test, but in my view he most certainly earned the opportunity last winter, and it's ridiculous he's not been selected

 

[mackembhoy]

I'm far from convinced Rashid would be any more use than Dawson in a home Test, but in my view he most certainly earned the opportunity last winter, and it's ridiculous he's not been selected

He'd have loved that Lords wicket.

Just typical we don't then select the best spinner in the country.

 

[StephenZA]

I want to just say how very well Maharaj bowled. Economical, great control, drift and occasional spin, he deserved the wickets and gave Faf the chance to rotate his seamers from the other end. Big difference from the Lords test. I wish the team where not such slow starters.

 

[fredfertang]

I want to just say how very well Maharaj bowled. Economical, great control, drift and occasional spin, he deserved the wickets and gave Faf the chance to rotate his seamers from the other end. Big difference from the Lords test. I wish the team where not such slow starters.

Indeed - brought back memories of Paul Harris and Nicky Boje - he is so much better than either of them

 

[StephenZA]

Indeed - brought back memories of Paul Harris and Nicky Boje - he is so much better than either of them

He is definitely doing the same job as Harris used to do for us, but he is a bit more attacking with better drift and flight. If he continues taking a few wickets an innings at an economical rate then the 4 man bowling attack is perfect for SA.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Well we need a miracle, or rain to get away from here without a defeat.

 

[grecian]

He'd have loved that Lords wicket.

Just typical we don't then select the best spinner in the country.

He played, did quite well. Didn't take long to be forgotten as always.

but yeah Rashid deserved to play too, if you are going with another spinner, this Dawson thing is just unpleasant. I'd have more time for it, if they batted him at 3, and just considered him part-time.

 

[mackembhoy]

He played, did quite well. Didn't take long to be forgotten as always.

but yeah Rashid deserved to play too, if you are going with another spinner, this Dawson thing is just unpleasant. I'd have more time for it, if they batted him at 3, and just considered him part-time.

Dawson did well in the second innings. But on a helpful pitch I don't doubt any spinner would have picked up a couple. Rashid would have got plenty from it.

Moeen taking 10 highlights the helpfulness of the pitch, when Moeen looked utterly hopeless in Asia.

 

[grecian]

Dawson did well in the second innings. But on a helpful pitch I don't doubt any spinner would have picked up a couple. Rashid would have got plenty from it.

Moeen taking 10 highlights the helpfulness of the pitch, when Moeen looked utterly hopeless in Asia.

Ah, right the old if Moeen did it, it must be the pitch thing, you don't do the cricinfo commentary do you. How did Maharaj do?

Yes he looked hopeless this year in Asia, think some have mentioned it before, consistently outbowled Rashid before that though. Ho-hum.

Rashid is not in any measure proven to be better in Tests, one-dayers I'll give you, wouldn't even play the Beard in those.

 

[mackembhoy]

Ah, right the old if Moeen did it, it must be the pitch thing, you don't do the cricinfo commentary do you. How did Maharaj do?

Yes he looked hopeless this year in Asia, think some have mentioned it before, consistently outbowled Rashid before that though. Ho-hum.

Rashid is not in any measure proven to be better in Tests, one-dayers I'll give you, wouldn't even play the Beard in those.

Maharaj took 4/85 when it became a helpful wicket.

Was flat as a pancake in the first innings.

 

[Daemon]

I know he didn't bowl as well as 23 wickets in 8 innings suggests, but that India series surely should've got him the nod over Dawson. I suppose the thinking was that even if the spinner selected isn't taking wickets, he shouldn't be throwing the game away with pies. They probably just saw SLA in front of Dawson's name and assumed he's a tight bowler.

 

[grecian]

Maharaj took 4/85 when it became a helpful wicket.

Was flat as a pancake in the first innings.

So Moeen outbowled him, which is the point, again Moeen has taken nearly 100 wickets other than Lords, getting all the best batsmen in the World out, to try to disregard that because of one terrible tour is silly, and to talk up Adil because of one average tour is just as silly.

Having said that I think he should have, and should play rather than Dawson, because I'm not insane.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Rashid should have played ahead of Dawson at Lord's. Dawson having been picked should remain in the side for now if we are playing 2 spinners to give him a fair crack. If after a few games he isn't up to it then he gets dropped and the selectors have to decide whether Rashid returns or they pick a batsman to strengthen the line up and revert to a 5 man attack with Mo as spinner. Not hard is it, trouble is I have no clue what they will do as I never expected them to pick 6 bowlers at home in the first place.

 

[fredfertang]

****

 

[flibbertyjibber]

haha, this game is done anyway so it doesn't really matter.

 

[anil1405]

lol Broad.

 

[harsh.ag]

Big reprieve that. Poor Broad. The one time he doesn't use the review

 

[vcs]

Should have reviewed it, ****s.

 

[kykweer.proteas]

He is definitely doing the same job as Harris used to do for us, but he is a bit more attacking with better drift and flight. If he continues taking a few wickets an innings at an economical rate then the 4 man bowling attack is perfect for SA.

Exactly. We dont NEED a strike spin bowler. Just one that can apply pressure. In the context of our bowling attack, paul harris was severely underrated.