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Ian Holland de-listed but not given up.
Ian Holland de-listed but not given up.
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Australian Off Season 2017
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The normal awards that everyone else has
Why?
Because I think that sportspeople should be able to create revenue before drawing revenue?
Or because I think the pink test is way OTT and that breast cancer already receives enough/too much funding and publicity compared with other cancers and diseases?
Yeh, nah. You just imply I'm misogynistic if that suits the argument you wanna have better.
stephen
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Not gonna happen. Neither side will budge until something they really care about is threatened (for CA it's the India tour, for the players it's the ashes).
howardj
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I think domestic players with mortgages won't be able to wait until the Ashes - it's a pretty big thing for your income to disappear, even if you are on $200 000 or $300 000
And I think CA will feel massive heat from Channel Nine who, as I understand it, won't be able to promote the Ashes series with the players' images until this is sorted out
And I think CA will feel massive heat from Channel Nine who, as I understand it, won't be able to promote the Ashes series with the players' images until this is sorted out
howardj
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Thanks mate
I'm very concerned about this dispute and wanted to see what other people were thinking
mr_mister
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Who's side was who on? What was slats saying?
TheJediBrah
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What are you basing this off? Seems to me that there is at least some type of 'crowd' that is stopping people from watching women's cricket. I'd say that these 2 factors would be a big part of it.
The mens under-15s nation championships aren't televised or hugely popular for similar reasons
I've heard it said about Women's tennis from, that it's a different sport entirely from the men's game. I can imagine women's cricket being enjoyable to watch despite the physical differences, like watching Chris Harris bowling to Kepler Wessels or something. You're not going to see big sixes or 140kph bowling but you can still have a decent contest.
social
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Nine is supposedly meeting with potential Ashes advertisers this week
Can't see the point in them doing that now
As for the players, I'd be advising the one with potential debt issues to contact their financiers sooner rather than later as in my experience, they are far more likely to help if you give them ample warning.
Burgey
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Yep.
Podcast will probably up sometime this morning on SkySportsRadio if anyone wants to listen. Slats got a bit fired up, but unfortunately for Slats Ed reads a bit so it wasn't a very even contest.
cnerd123
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A) because most cricket fans don't play cricket to a standard where they can say they play at a higher level than woman's international cricket
B) Because people will watch woman's athletics, tennis, MMA, etc without the same complaints of them being lesser athletes than the men
C) Because, as you pointed out, men's cricket has plenty of times where the cricket on display isn't the most athletic and yet it's riveting and people watch it
These arguments just don't hold up logically. They seem like easy narratives people like to put out, not actually reasons.
Oh, and regarding kids cricket not being televised - high school and college sports are huge in the USA. Schoolboy baseball is huge in Japan. Clearly people can watch and enjoy kids play sports.
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TheJediBrah
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Yeah but that's because most cricket fans are terrible at cricket
Simply not true in the slightest, and even if it was not necessarily relevant to cricket. Complaints about the standard of women's cricket are nothing compared to in those other sports you mentioned.
not sure how this is relevant, but if your point is that women's cricket has potential to be enjoyable? If so then, yes, I agree, that's what I was saying.
What do you mean by "arguments" though? They aren't "arguments" for anything, they're hypotheses for reasons why it's not popular. I really don't get what you're saying.
Again, how is this relevant? Youth cricket isn't often televised and people don't really pay to watch it. Even though under-19s and under 17s, probably even under-15s are a higher standard than International womens'.
TheJediBrah
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Anyway ***** seems that the only thing we really disagree on is the reasons why people don't like womens' cricket.
What do you think the reasons are in that case?
What do you think the reasons are in that case?
Spikey
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2 months ago they had an interview and Slater was basically on CA's side then, I assume he and most of the C9 guys have only been briefed by CA more since then
cnerd123
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I think it's just lack of coverage tbh
Imagine if every women's cricket series had the same depth of coverage as the men do on Cricinfo, Cricketweb, social media, news outlets, etc.
The only sport I can compare to is MMA, and over there women's MMA is very clearly atleast a decade (if not more) behind the men's in terms of skills and strategy, and they're obviously smaller and less athletic, but they aren't any less popular. And most MMA fans say it's because they fight on the same cards, their fights get analysed by the same analysts, they get interviewed on the same shows, and it's just so easy to follow and watch them that people do it.
Imagine if every women's cricket series had the same depth of coverage as the men do on Cricinfo, Cricketweb, social media, news outlets, etc.
The only sport I can compare to is MMA, and over there women's MMA is very clearly atleast a decade (if not more) behind the men's in terms of skills and strategy, and they're obviously smaller and less athletic, but they aren't any less popular. And most MMA fans say it's because they fight on the same cards, their fights get analysed by the same analysts, they get interviewed on the same shows, and it's just so easy to follow and watch them that people do it.
TheJediBrah
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Do we know how that got started for female MMA though? I have a feeling it was already a lot more popular, comparative to the Men's version, than women's cricket is. And brought a lot more money in as well.
I think your point is valid and that more coverage will inevitably help it's popularity somewhat, but comparing the financial validity of women's cricket to women's MMA is not really a great comparison. And some would argue that Women's cricket already gets far more coverage than it deserves, as this thread shows.