ankitj
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Yeah. It's not like ATG XI is going to play against Jharkhand second XI.
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Top Ten ODI cricketers of All Time
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What's your point?
mr_mister
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It was inspired by this remark - "All those guys I just mentioned would finish innings off better than so called finishers because they are better batsman"
And my point is that it's sad that people think this. Because I disagree with the sentiment.
Bevan was a gun batsman
And my point is that it's sad that people think this. Because I disagree with the sentiment.
Bevan was a gun batsman
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honestbharani
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You don't have to pick your ATG ODI XI teams on hypotheticals... We have seen all these players in action and as I said, there is no reason to play folks out of position coz there are enough ATGs for each role to form an ATG XI for ODIs. Only the allrounder at #7 is about of a toss up.
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Yes because that topic is so fresh
stephen
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People saying that Bevan was overrated either didn't watch him play or need their heads examined. He won us so many games against great attacks.
There are three contenders for "best finisher ever" in odis. Bevan, Dhoni and Hussey. Hussey was just behind Bevan. Dhoni had keeping as an extra string to his bow which probably makes him a little better than Bevan overall. Having said that, Bevan's batting was better than Dhoni's. He finished as well as Dhoni against better opposition in a time where batting was much harder.
In an all time XI you pick Bevan and Gilchrist or you pick Dhoni and Jayasuria.
There are three contenders for "best finisher ever" in odis. Bevan, Dhoni and Hussey. Hussey was just behind Bevan. Dhoni had keeping as an extra string to his bow which probably makes him a little better than Bevan overall. Having said that, Bevan's batting was better than Dhoni's. He finished as well as Dhoni against better opposition in a time where batting was much harder.
In an all time XI you pick Bevan and Gilchrist or you pick Dhoni and Jayasuria.
smash84
The Tiger King
I actually saw quite a bit of Bevan and have seen a fair bit of Dhoni.
I prefer Dhoni because he has that extra gear that Bevan lacked.
stephen
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Bevan didn't lack an extra gear. He played in a time when 65 SR was standard and he did accelerate when needed. But he played safe and didn't lose his wicket while chasing, ensuring the win.
If you think he lacked an extra gear, just watch his innings for the ROW XI. Phenomenal innings.
Dhoni has come along at a very different time in ODI history. He's never had to face Ambrose or Wasim and Waqar.
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Be interesting for someone to write a piece on guys who were gun FC players but couldn't translate it to test success. Hick, Bevan, Blewett, Elliott.
smash84
The Tiger King
I actually saw that innings which was pretty good and also saw a lot of him in the annual tri team series that used to be a feature of Australian cricket LO cricket. Bevan had a great knack for finding ones and twos and converting the twos to threes and the ones to twos but he wasn't a great boundary hitter. Dhoni can almost find a boundary at will (most times) when its needed, more longevity too.
I agree with your point regarding Dhoni's lack of facing great attacks, but at least in ODIs he would still have found a fair amount of success if not as much obviously but there's no way to say it with certainty.
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mr_mister
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Add Ramps to that list and you've named the players I am most interested in when reading about cricket. I'm fascinated by these guys for some reason
vic_orthdox
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Which is pretty extraordinary from Bevan when he spent so much time lower in the order; i.e. less opportunity to make runs.
Immenso
International Vice-Captain
It would be interesting to do a stats guru query on number 5 and 6 positions at the time of Bevan.
A good 6 at the time averaged 30, in the 20s was acceptable.
How much more than the next best was he just on averages? 10 or 20?
I'd do it myself but ...... on my phone
A good 6 at the time averaged 30, in the 20s was acceptable.
How much more than the next best was he just on averages? 10 or 20?
I'd do it myself but ...... on my phone
indiaholic
International Captain
He played quite a few matches at 4 too.. So that is probably a better comparison:
Batting records | One-Day Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo
Batting records | One-Day Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Lol.. what do you know.. Hooper has comparable stats to Symonds in those numbers and is easily a better bowler and better catcher too.. 