ImpatientLime
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is warner's ceiling arguably higher though? he has played some ridiculous innings.
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Placing our bets on "Test Cricket's Young Fab Four"
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Gob
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Probably. Needs to deliver away from home more especially in the subcontinent
Furball
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Kohli's is the highest of the lot IMO.
flibbertyjibber
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Only blot Kohli has to sort out is away to England. Be so much hype for that series so if he does it will be some effort from him.
Burgey
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Needs to do it more often when there's matches and series on the line imo. If Australia bats again today, watch him make a 70 ball ton with a first innings lead of 300 or so behind him, and the press yap him up as something incredible again.
He shits me, frankly. Early career de Villiers level of slalom going on.
Zinzan
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I know their age was a big part of the 'fab four' label, but Warner has slipped right up into that group, even if we're purely talking test cricket.
If we're talking all forms, then is there any reason Warner isn't behind Kohli and AB as the 3rd best bat across the 3 forms currently.
My top 5 across all forms of cricket would be;
1.Kohli
2.AB
3.Warner
5 = Root/Smith
If we're talking all forms, then is there any reason Warner isn't behind Kohli and AB as the 3rd best bat across the 3 forms currently.
My top 5 across all forms of cricket would be;
1.Kohli
2.AB
3.Warner
5 = Root/Smith
Adders
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No. If anything he has slipped away from the pack mate. Davey's test form this year is way below the standard the others have set.
All formats combined though, yes I probably agree with your ratings.
Zinzan
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Well yeah that was specifically combining the formats remembering Warner's been a total freak at ODI & T20 (and yes I include IPL
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ImpatientLime
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smith and kohli turning this into a fab 2 tbh.
Zinzan
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Root's up there with those two, he just came off a series averaging 50 in Indian conditions against Ashwin & co. Unfair comparing that to what Smith does on flat Australian wickets that suits his style down to the ground & Kohli does at home against very ordinary English and New Zealand attacks.
ImpatientLime
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root averages a century every 5 matches. until that improves i don't see how you can compare him to those guys.
he needs to be utterly dominant. enough of the breezy, attractive but ultimately meaningless half centuries.
he needs to be utterly dominant. enough of the breezy, attractive but ultimately meaningless half centuries.
Jono
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I agree with you Zinzan, Root is most definitely in the group. But one question, what attack could Kohli score runs against in India which you'd not describe as "very ordinary"?
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harsh.ag
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Just flat out wrong. Arguing based on the outcome.
Zinzan
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Good question, none compared with Ashwin, Jadeja and co, but the next best on those wickets i'm guessing would be Sri Lanka, Pakistan, & even West Indies and Bangladesh, before you get into the other non-continental sides.
What would be interesting is people's best current world Test XI to take on India in India.
Jono
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Personally I feel any bowling line-up with Broad and Anderson in it, who have previously done well in Asia and UAE, can't be "very ordinary". I do think England didn't bowl well, but that's different to whether their actual attack was "very ordinary" I think its a little unfair on Kohli as basically any runs he get in India will be against a bowling attack that won't be deemed to be good. Even Lanka people would say its Fatty or bust.
Zinzan
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You're deluded if you think they had a good attack for Indian conditions compared to the other sides I mentioned above. Rashid was quite good, but unlikely as good as Herath or Shah on those tracks & the other English spinners were terrible. Even with Rashid doing quite well, West Indies and Bangers have more depth in the spin department for those tracks.
OverratedSanity
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Bangladesh and West indies don't have better attacks that England's, regardless of conditions. Not even close.
Zinzan
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It's no insult to your mate Kohli at all, don't be so sensitive. I'm pointing out the obvious fact that out of the 3 batting scenarios, Smith vs Pakistan on Aust wickets, Kohli vs NZ & England on home tracks & Root against Ashwin & Jadeja in India, clearly the latter had the harder task.
With respect to Anderson and Broad, it's not being played in England, & having seen the sort of conditions NZ faced, I never expected the English seamers to pose much of a threat, it was always going to be the spinners for me, regardless what happen 4 years ago. Dion Nash bowled India out for 80 once, I'm talking about 2016.