*Official* Bangladesh in New Zealand 2016/2017

[SteveNZ]

Didn't see much of us bowling, but the amount of short ****? After Bangladesh had been punished for dropping short with regularity? Weird.

 

[cnerd123]

BD always try too hard when chasing a big target. Lose plenty of wickets up top to avoidable strokes.

All down to inexperience really. These guys need to play more, and play more overseas.

Also Munro seems to be one of those guys who, once he gets going, can be a nightmare to bowl to. Is there any plan or strategy for bowling to him, outside of taking your chances when he creates them?

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

why is this Mossadek guy at 8? Averages 70 in FC cricket lol

Because of so called senior players.

But really it's a waste playing Mosaddek at 8. Soumya is horribly out of form and this will probably his last series to put up something or else he'll be in trash bucket with so many others like Shahriar Nafees, Junaid Siddique etc etc. But he is Chandika's favorite student so one never knows. Bangladesh is incapable of chasing anything close to 300. This team has its limitation no matter what. BD's slimmest of chances to push NZ is if we can score 280 odd batting first followed by tight bowling. If NZ bats first in these odis, BD has no chance.

Something is wrong with Mustafiz's action and rhythm. It's his comeback game so not really sure whether he changed his action or it's just that he's coming back after long time so not following through like he used to be. Taskin needs to learn quick. As I assumed earlier that he's likely get carried away with pace and bounce and that's what happening. Mashrafe needs to pitch it up and he's the only swing bowler so bowling short won't help. Basically bowling unit has no idea how to bowl on these wickets. There seems to be no planning.

 

[SteveNZ]

Also Munro seems to be one of those guys who, once he gets going, can be a nightmare to bowl to. Is there any plan or strategy for bowling to him, outside of taking your chances when he creates them?

Taking the stumps out of play and going across him isn't a bad bet. Like Shakib got him, making him fetch to go onside when he wants to. And yeah, you have to take your chances because he does give them. He's a vastly smarter and better bat than when he started for NZ, but there's still ways to stifle him on reasonably sized grounds.

I thought there was something for Bangladesh to be optimistic about, when they figure out the length to bowl in NZ. Mashrafe should know better, when he hit his lengths he was hard to get away. Taskin's seam presentation was great, got noticeable lift and a bit of sideways on the right length. The Fizz could've bowled more overs up front too, presume because of the injury he didn't. Probably, as we are, at least one front-line option short?

 

[Blocky]

You're giving them too much credit.

We played absolutely poorly, outside Latham, no one in the Top 5 did anything useful and our bowling was absolutely woeful, and we still spanked them by 77 runs. Their batting was as good as it's going to be in this series and they didn't bowl that awfully, it's just a sub continent team touring in a nation they have no real chance of victory within.

 

[Zinzan]

The problem for 'the Fizz' is his quicker balls didn't seem to be any fastest than 128-129 clicks yesterday (unless I missed some quicker ones), which allows batsmen to sit back and just wait for his slower ball. In the IPL he was able to get his quicker one through around 140 if my memory serves. Which makes a huge difference. The very same reason I think James Faulkner seems a little less effective in the last 18-24 months.

To the game itself, I don't think NZ played particularly well with bat or ball (with the notable exception of Latham), so worrying signs for Bangers given they still got hammered.

Lots of pre-series talk on here about how competitive they'll be by some, let's hope for their sake, we see more of a game on Thursday.

 

[Athlai]

The problem for 'the Fizz' is his quicker balls didn't seem to be any fastest than 128-129 clicks yesterday (unless I missed some quicker ones), which allows batsmen to sit back and just wait for his slower ball. In the IPL he was able to get his quicker one through around 140 if my memory serves. Which makes a huge difference. The very same reason I think James Faulkner seems a little less effective in the last 18-24 months.

To the game itself, I don't think NZ played particularly well with bat or ball (with the notable exception of Latham), so worrying signs for Bangers given they still got hammered.

Lots of pre-series talk on here about how competitive they'll be by some, let's hope for their sake, we see more of a game on Thursday.

Well he is returning back from injury and its earlier than expected. Reckon we did see some of the competitiveness in patches yesterday, they had the semblance of an attempt at that chase and they also put us under pressure with the ball. bangers of yesteryear so wouldve conceded 300+ when that wasn't the norm and would've been lucky to make 200.

They're a legit team, albeit in conditions woefully unsuited to them and will very likely lose every game.

 

[Bahnz]

Well he is returning back from injury and its earlier than expected. Reckon we did see some of the competitiveness in patches yesterday, they had the semblance of an attempt at that chase and they also put us under pressure with the ball. bangers of yesteryear so wouldve conceded 300+ when that wasn't the norm and would've been lucky to make 200.

They're a legit team, albeit in conditions woefully unsuited to them and will very likely lose every game.

Yeah, reckon the Bangerz are on roughly the same level as Sri Lanka were - maybe a little weaker - when they toured last year, and will get similarly steamrolled.

 

[NZTailender]

Well he is returning back from injury and its earlier than expected. Reckon we did see some of the competitiveness in patches yesterday, they had the semblance of an attempt at that chase and they also put us under pressure with the ball. bangers of yesteryear so wouldve conceded 300+ when that wasn't the norm and would've been lucky to make 200.

They're a legit team, albeit in conditions woefully unsuited to them and will very likely lose every game.

You could actually see them getting used to the conditions by the end of the game, albeit against an attack who were just like "well we won this game 30 overs ago, lets not try so hard." Their bowling really let them down a bit in this match, not so much their batting.

 

[Burgey]

I understand you're trying to be positive about the series mate, but let's be honest, they're a terrible side.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

This guy Ferguson is absolute garbage. He's only quick in the first few overs. He is unable to get any movement in the air or off the pitch. He bowls a ton of wides. His pace drops off substantially in the latter overs i.e. he's got poor fitness. Yes, he's picked up a couple of wickets but only because Bangladesh is under serious scoreboard pressure.

he's raw but you gotta be ****ing blind if you don't think there's something to work with there. Bloke genuinely hurried Warner ffs.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

The problem for 'the Fizz' is his quicker balls didn't seem to be any fastest than 128-129 clicks yesterday (unless I missed some quicker ones), which allows batsmen to sit back and just wait for his slower ball. In the IPL he was able to get his quicker one through around 140 if my memory serves. Which makes a huge difference. The very same reason I think James Faulkner seems a little less effective in the last 18-24 months.

To the game itself, I don't think NZ played particularly well with bat or ball (with the notable exception of Latham), so worrying signs for Bangers given they still got hammered.

Lots of pre-series talk on here about how competitive they'll be by some, let's hope for their sake, we see more of a game on Thursday.

Think we are in a situation here that Mustafiz is playing without fully recovering thus he's unable to give his 100%. Thats why the noticable change in action. The day before the match, chandika said mustafiz going to play only if hes 100 percent fit. But I suspect there's a pressure from somewhere else to play him even if he's not fully fit. And this will actually cause more damage to him. All speculation though. The next match will tell a better story.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

So I don't get this. BCB spent around $36,000 in total bearing Walsh's travelling cost from Jamaica to USA to Australia to UAE to NZ and return cost following same route to Jamaica once the tour ends. BCB hired him as a full timer coach for 3 years and not on series basis. He should have been with the team esp before such a crucial series (from BD's pov). Also after this tour some important tours are coming up too. So why is he not coming to BD and spending time with the bowlers? He's coming across as a laid back coach to me.

 

[jonbrooks]

A bowler who could have been playing for NZ right now is Scot Kuggeleijn. Pity about his criminal case.

 

[Blocky]

Easily, in all formats, Kuggelign is our #8 and a game changer with the style of play he comes with.

Alcohol causing more problems for NZ Cricket, combined with a he-said, she-said case with witnesses stating they were all over each other all night long. Unless he had a recording (i.e Tostee), he was always going to either go down in court, or in public opinion regardless of what actually happened.

 

[Gnske]

At least he'll the the quintessential yes man of the NZ side, there's a man who would never take no for an answer.

 

[Zinzan]

At least he'll the the quintessential yes man of the NZ side, there's a man who would never take no for an answer.

Not bad that one, although gotta feel for the kid. Seems he'll be the butt of such jokes for the rest of his days, so whether he wins the court case or not, he's kind of lost either way.

I can't talk either, I made one myself the other day without really thinking about it too much. No doubt he's a talented cricketer.

 

[SteveNZ]

A bowler who could have been playing for NZ right now is Scot Kuggeleijn. Pity about his criminal case.

Been plenty of All Blacks that have continued to play, pending court cases. And probably other sports. In a way he's unlucky he hadn't debuted before it. I have little doubt a current squad member would continue to be picked, but Scott is deemed a no go zone.

Is that right? I can understand why the selectors steer clear. But I think we all agree he'd 100% be there, ODIs and T20s, if not for the court case. And on the presumption of innocence, plus the fact I don't imagine it would raise a massive outcry in the media, I think I'd be picking him.

 

[Burgey]

Been plenty of All Blacks that have continued to play, pending court cases. And probably other sports. In a way he's unlucky he hadn't debuted before it. I have little doubt a current squad member would continue to be picked, but Scott is deemed a no go zone.

Is that right? I can understand why the selectors steer clear. But I think we all agree he'd 100% be there, ODIs and T20s, if not for the court case. And on the presumption of innocence, plus the fact I don't imagine it would raise a massive outcry in the media, I think I'd be picking him.

Surely to some extent it depends on the seriousness of the alleged offence.

 

[Blocky]

Been plenty of All Blacks that have continued to play, pending court cases. And probably other sports. In a way he's unlucky he hadn't debuted before it. I have little doubt a current squad member would continue to be picked, but Scott is deemed a no go zone.

Is that right? I can understand why the selectors steer clear. But I think we all agree he'd 100% be there, ODIs and T20s, if not for the court case. And on the presumption of innocence, plus the fact I don't imagine it would raise a massive outcry in the media, I think I'd be picking him.

I hate to say it, but had this been the NZRFU handling a live prospect in the youth, this likely would have been settled well before it even went to court.