***Official*** Pakistan in New Zealand 2016/17

[Zinzan]

NZ 202 all out.

 

[hendrix]

Yeah, I've never understood why NZ don't use a Duke at home since it would seem to suit our bowling attack better.

Because it would make us even more reliant on swing than we already are, and would make it even harder for us to adjust to taking wickets overseas.

 

[Zinzan]

Because it would make us even more reliant on swing than we already are, and would make it even harder for us to adjust to taking wickets overseas.

Based on that logic, you could equally argue India shouldn't produce such spin-friendly tracks even if it means losing their edge at home, since it makes it harder to adjust to foreign conditions away.

Take whatever will give you the best home advantage first and foremost & then worry about the away stuff imo.

 

[Blocky]

The problem is more so our batting I believe.

If you gave Dale Steyn, Mitchell Starc, Stuart Broad a crack at our batting line up with a Duke, it wouldn't end well

 

[hendrix]

Based on that logic, you could equally argue India shouldn't produce such spin-friendly tracks even if it means losing their edge at home, since it makes it harder to adjust to foreign conditions away.

Take whatever will give you the best home advantage first and foremost & then worry about the away stuff imo.

I have made that argument about India. It's not wrong.

It's also not wrong to produce a home advantage. But there's a balance. If the troll spinners are taking wickets, or the Doug Bracewells...there's a limit to how useful that's going to be in the long run.

 

[Zinzan]

Looked close live.

 

[Zinzan]

Can't give that imo.

 

[hendrix]

gee that's lazy running.

Gee I hate Gould as well, the guy seems to have a very low IQ.

 

[Meridio]

So tight this. Reckon if it were a higher frame rate camera he'd be out, but on that evidence you can't give it - the frame where the bails come off he's in.

 

[Howsie]

Latham almost way to causal there, lucky lucky

 

[Zinzan]

I have made that argument about India. It's not wrong.

It's also not wrong to produce a home advantage. But there's a balance. If the troll spinners are taking wickets, or the Doug Bracewells...there's a limit to how useful that's going to be in the long run.

We'll have to agree to disagree then, I'd much rather us emphasize our home advantage & be a beast at home even if it means more of a challenge overseas. Also I'm not convinced it will make it that much more challenging away. It would just mean for more horses for courses selection policies based on the different conditions.

 

[Zinzan]

Latham almost way to causal there, lucky lucky

Agree, didn't extend his arm quite fully either which cost him a couple of inches. Or as Styris says.... even the dive.

 

[hendrix]

FTR I think the light up stumps should be mandatory at the top level - far less ambiguous than looking for when the bail is up.

 

[Zinzan]

Smithy doing his best to put the hex on KW,.,calling a hundred already.

What a puke he is sometimes.

 

[Zinzan]

FTR I think the light up stumps should be mandatory at the top level - far less ambiguous than looking for when the bail is up.

I was thinking that..& the lights would have seen him marginally short imo.

 

[hendrix]

I was thinking that..& the lights would have seen him marginally short imo.

Probably. And I quite like the fact they tend to light up before the bails are completely off - seems a bit more fair as sometimes they take forever to come off. It looked out live to me and I'd like to see those given, as the ball was in contact with the stumps well before his bat was in. I know those technically aren't the rules but it just seems like it would be more consistent, to me.

 

[Blocky]

Smithy doing his best to put the hex on KW,.,calling a hundred already.

What a puke he is sometimes.

tbh with conditions out there, that's exactly what the greats should be looking to do.

Both of these guys have no reason not to score tons here, the conditions are some of the best they'll have batting in NZ.

 

[hendrix]

tbh with conditions out there, that's exactly what the greats should be looking to do.

Both of these guys have no reason not to score tons here, the conditions are some of the best they'll have batting in NZ.

Yup.

This is another of many Latham innings where he really should ton up.

 

[straw man]

Seems a fairly good start from these two. 330/5 declared imo.

 

[straw man]

Probably. And I quite like the fact they tend to light up before the bails are completely off - seems a bit more fair as sometimes they take forever to come off. It looked out live to me and I'd like to see those given, as the ball was in contact with the stumps well before his bat was in. I know those technically aren't the rules but it just seems like it would be more consistent, to me.

Yes it would involve changing the purpose of the bails from entertainment to enforcement of the rules, which means they would need to be set up to comply with the rules exactly. Don't know how you'd allow for the case where the bails are knocked, breaking the circuit, but then settle back into the grooves of the stumps, so not out.