***Official*** England in India 2016/17

[Red Wingz]

Another reason to say ashwin is a spin track bully DOT

 

[smash84]

Another reason to say ashwin is a spin track bully DOT

can't blame him on a totally flat pitch

 

[Shri]

He got bunsens in 2012 and still bowled like a drain.

Typical minnow basher.

Man, he destroyed RSA and just dominated KW weeks back. When the pitches start turning, Root will be his bunny. Wait and watch.

 

[weldone]

can't blame him on a totally flat pitch

specially before watching him bowl in the 2nd innings

 

[honestbharani]

These two bats have some really weird techniques against spin.

And very effective

Tbh, a lot of times the very technique that helps you score on roads is what gets you in trouble on pitches that start helping the bowlers, whether it is seam or spin.

The approach that England have used is pretty much the natural game of all the Aussie batsmen. They're not good enough to survive by nudging and nurdling anyway, might as well hit the spinners off their lines.

I dont think there is any truth to some kinda Aussie bravado approach, for starters. And secondly, Root and Ali used a very considered and methodical approach. They got in on a flat track and played a few no risk shots for boundaries to spread the field, then milked the spinners all day and then when they got desperate and tried to attack again, they hit them off their lengths as well as pushed the field back. Stokes and Bairstow just cashed in on their hardwork, esp. coz Stokes had about 9 lives.

I made that joke first and you get duffers' like

Lifes so not fair

Joni geting credit at CW for something that someone else said first. Color me surprised.

When 2 wickets in an innings is a failure and not showing up as considered by few here, it shows how good Ashwin has become.

Lol at all the hatred for Ashwin, esp. from a couple of the English posters. Will be interesting how it goes by the end of the series...

Hope Bhuvi comes back asap. His control along with Shami's will keep sides from posting mammoth totals.

Nah, Bhuvi will be even bigger baggage on such tracks. Umesh and Shami are very similar as bowlers though. Would have preferred Ishant, as stupid as it seems to type out.

Well not going to say he is a total minnow basher yet as it may come back to bite us in the ass but he was poor last time we toured and despite being the pick of the spin bowlers here he rarely threatened. We do seem to play him very well which is funny given we are regarded as a poor side versus spin.

I just think it is because he keeps going for wickets. Sometimes it does pay to go the Harbhajan route. Jadeja does it better even now, hence MSD preferring him over Ash in those overseas tests, as bad a decision as it may have been in hindsight, esp. when we were playing 4.5 bowlers with Binny in there. He needs to learn to bowl dry. It separates the good from the great when it comes to bowlers.

 

[wpdavid]

I know it isn't entirely relevant to this thread, but oldsters might enjoy it anyway.

tbh I had no idea this footage existed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaH1b0Fr6EA

 

[Howe_zat]

I know it isn't entirely relevant to this thread, but oldsters might enjoy it anyway.

tbh I had no idea this footage existed.

Cottam's run up is mental.

 

[Woodster]

Be a good test for this England attack tomorrow, and hopefully we'll see the benefit of having six very viable options. There's little signs of deterioration today in the pitch and we should see more of that tomorrow, and more consistently in terms of spin. I thought Moeen bowled nicely today, I still think the seamers will probably build more pressure and when it reverses, look the more threatening. Woakes second spell offered hope aswell in terms of the control he bowled with.

 

[wpdavid]

Cottam's run up is mental.

Did you see Solkar catching Lewis at short leg of a sweep? At 5:40 iirc.

 

[weldone]

Did you see Solkar catching Lewis at short leg of a sweep? At 5:40 iirc.

Wow what a catch!

 

[Furball]

Man, he destroyed RSA and just dominated KW weeks back.

Like I said, minnow basher.

 

[Shri]

Ok.

 

[Teja.]

Fun contrived stat: Rahane averages 20 more than any other batsman with 500+ runs in 2016.

 

[fredfertang]

Cottam's run up is mental.

There were a few like that back then - John Price had one that amazed me as a kid, and Peter Lever as well - later Lever straightened his run and gained a yard of pace and that seems to have taught everyone a lesson

 

[Howe_zat]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/nov/10/england-india-2016-tour-ben-stokes-first-test

"Ben Stokes shows other side to his talents with century of graft and craft"

I thought he showed a new side of things with this innings. But I thought that because it's his first ton that was any of flukey, starting with England in a strong position or looking tired and loose after a while, and it was all of those things.

 

[fredfertang]

One think I hope the new Stokes does is cause Ian Botham to have a long hard look at himself and see what he squandered

 

[ImpatientLime]

imagine having squandered your career and still scoring 14 test match centuries and taking over 300 test wickets.

 

[Jono]

haha, one innings in and pot shots at Ashwon

Gonna be a good series.

 

[hazsa19]

One think I hope the new Stokes does is cause Ian Botham to have a long hard look at himself and see what he squandered

Lolz jokes

 

[mr_mister]

yeah botham's test career (when looking at longevity awards like centuries and wickets - not averages and strike rates) is one of the most impressive ever