***Official*** Australia in New Zealand 2016

[Hurricane]

Lol.

 

[TNT]

Lol I think I get your point, but that Hazel example is a diabolical one. How is saying "who's the ****ing third umpire"? in that context not abuse of the 3rd ump?

I didn't want to get into this because you cannot change a mind once it is made up.

A bowler appeals for a LBW a

The batsman says to the bowler not out

The bowler responds to the batsman who's the ****ing umpire

Is he abusing the umpire.

Hazelwood made the reference to the media controlling the replays, not the third umpire.

It was still a dumb thing to do and he got what he deserved.

 

[Top_Cat]

The Kiwis have never been backward in complaining about stuff. Don't think deference is in the national DNA, certainly not under Fleming. That the Kiwis never really banged on about Lee after bowling multiple beamers when at his quickest suggests they didn't have a big problem with him. They were perfectly entitled to be miffed at how often it was happening and even if they weren't deliberate (I don't believe they were), certainly they were entitled to wonder about how careful Lee was being when busting a gut. The whining about Tait's action just about every time he was in the oppo, on the other hand, really did them little credit even if it was designed purely to get under his skin. Either way, never miss an opportunity for banter.

 

[TNT]

Let's not kid ourselves that he wasn't implying the '3rd ump is a ****'

And that sir is how social media turns rumors like Waugh saying choo choo into folklore.

 

[Hurricane]

The Kiwis have never been backward in complaining about stuff. Don't think deference is in the national DNA, certainly not under Fleming. That the Kiwis never really banged on about Lee after bowling multiple beamers when at his quickest suggests they didn't have a big problem with him. They were perfectly entitled to be miffed at how often it was happening and even if they weren't deliberate (I don't believe they were), certainly they were entitled to wonder about how careful Lee was being when busting a gut. The whining about Tait's action just about every time he was in the oppo, on the other hand, really did them little credit even if it was designed purely to get under his skin. Either way, never miss an opportunity for banter.

Haha. Good on you (if I am reading correctly that you are bantering).

 

[Hurricane]

And that sir is how social media turns rumors like Waugh saying choo choo into folklore.

I think it is probably something that suits us to believe it is true.

 

[Zinzan]

I didn't want to get into this because you cannot change a mind once it is made up.

A bowler appeals for a LBW a

The batsman says to the bowler not out

The bowler responds to the batsman who's the ****ing umpire

Is he abusing the umpire.

Hazelwood made the reference to the media controlling the replays, not the third umpire.

It was still a dumb thing to do and he got what he deserved.

And that sir is how social media turns rumors like Waugh saying choo choo into folklore.

No, he did not do that. He inquired who the 3rd umpire was as he was curious who made what he perceived to be an erroneous decision, in the process delivering a word that makes peoples ears ring.

Don't you ever speak for an Australian cricketer or claim to know their motives based on nothing ever again.

I'm happy to stand corrected, but I'm sure he said "who the *** is the 3rd umpire?" which to anyone who witnessed that in context knows exactly what was meant/implied, let's not try and make out we need code-breakers to decipher what was meant.


Here's the quote according to your own media ffs Watch: Hazelwood reacts, says "Who the f*** is the third umpire?" | | News | Ten Sports Official Website: latest Cricket News at tensports.com

 

[Hurricane]

I think it is probably something that suits us to believe it is true.

Other things we like to believe as it suits our world view:

Merv Hughes did spit on Greatbatch on purpose because he couldn't get him out.
Mitch Johnson headbutted Scott Styris during that confrontation
That Chappell bowled an underarm delivery (Oh wait that happened.)

 

[TheJediBrah]

Lol I think I get your point, but that Hazel example is a diabolical one. How is saying "who's the ****ing third umpire"? in that context not abuse of the 3rd ump?

tbf, in Australian, "who's the ****ing third umpire" basically just translates into "Hmm I wonder who the officiating video umpire is, sure he's a solid chap, interesting decision I do say" in plain English


"who's the ****ing third umpire" is actually equivalent to some of the most polite things you'd hear on a local Australian cricket field

 

[Zinzan]

I think it is probably something that suits us to believe it is true.

Haha seriously, what do you think was meant Hurricane? "Excuse me sir, but could I please know the name of the 3rd umpire, only I'd like to write a polite inquiry to him after play tonight"?

 

[Zinzan]

tbf, in Australian, "who's the ****ing third umpire" basically just translates into "Hmm I wonder who the officiating video umpire is, sure he's a solid chap, interesting decision I do say" in plain English


"who's the ****ing third umpire" is actually equivalent to some of the most polite things you'd hear on a local Australian cricket field

Don't buy it for a second...we all share the commonality of language, context and implication ... this one was a slam-dunk regardless of what spin you try and put on it now.

 

[Hurricane]

Haha seriously, what do you think was meant Hurricane? "Excuse me sir, but could I please know the name of the 3rd umpire, only I'd like to write a polite inquiry to him after play tonight"?

I was referring to the choo choo incident and not the Hazelwood one.

 

[Zinzan]

I was referring to the choo choo incident and not the Hazelwood one.

Ahh,,I was going to say, where's your head.. ...

 

[TheJediBrah]

Don't buy it for a second...we all share the commonality of language, context and implication ... this one was a slam-dunk regardless of what spin you try and put on it now.

99% of the controversy surrounding Australian cricketers for "sledging" or "behaviour", "aggression" etc. is just a result of misunderstood cultural differences

not saying that excuses anything but it tends to get overlooked and people assume it's some "toxic culture" in the National team or disrespect for opponents or something ridiculous

 

[TNT]

I'm happy to stand corrected, but I'm sure he said "who the *** is the 3rd umpire?" which to anyone who witnessed that in context knows exactly what was meant/implied, let's not try and make out we need code-breakers to decipher what was meant.


Here's the quote according to your own media ffs Watch: Hazelwood reacts, says "Who the f*** is the third umpire?" | | News | Ten Sports Official Website: latest Cricket News at tensports.com

You are the one who needed to dechipher and use code-breakers, I just went on what he actually said, you are going on about what he meant/implied.

 

[Hurricane]

 

[Gnske]

Clearly a smear campaign going on against Haze in here, putting words in his mouth.

The nerve to claim he would say something and mean something completely different is just appalling.

 

[TheJediBrah]

You are the one who needed to dechipher and use code-breakers, I just went on what he actually said, you are going on about what he meant/implied.

Come on TNT, he was obviously having a go at the umpire

 

[Zinzan]

99% of the controversy surrounding Australian cricketers for "sledging" or "behaviour", "aggression" etc. is just a result of misunderstood cultural differences

not saying that excuses anything but it tends to get overlooked and people assume it's some "toxic culture" in the National team or disrespect for opponents or something ridiculous

Ironic the media beat-up on the Chris Gayle thing (not that I disagree Gayle was a dick) was so massively overplayed, yet there's supposed ambiguity about what Haze did and it's instead it's just called 'cultural differences'. We both know nobody would have accepted a claim of 'cultural differences' around what Gayle said/implies, and rightfully so.

 

[Hurricane]