Yasir Shah tests positive for banned substance

[Grumpy]

I feel for Yasir here. Most Pak cricketers, except for the likes of Misbah, don't seem to be highly educated. I seriously doubt Yasir had enough knowledge to know to take that diuretic as a cover up for steroid use. After his freak injury the day before the 1st Test, Pak seemed quite desperate to rush him back for the remaining tests. Especially how they couldn't take 20 English wickets in Abu Dhabi. Which is why I suspect the Pak medical team gave him the steroid and then the diuretic to cover it up. Doesn't absolve Yasir because ignorance isn't an excuse, but I do feel for him. The PCB would never admit to this however. Doing so would have far higher consequences than losing just one bowler.

 

[Daemon]

That's a lot of assumptions you're making

 

[honestbharani]

The worst part is that the consequence in question is just more money for blokes who run PCB, that is, blokes who hardly give a damn about the game and are in it just to make money off it. That is why Pakistan playing is more important than Pakistan winning for them. You can, of course, substitute BCCI and India for Pakistan and PCB and it would still be true. Such a sad state.

 

[Grumpy]

That's a lot of assumptions you're making

Ofcourse. Just stating my opinion on the matter. I don't think it is far off from the realms of possibility.

 

[Grumpy]

The worst part is that the consequence in question is just more money for blokes who run PCB, that is, blokes who hardly give a damn about the game and are in it just to make money off it. That is why Pakistan playing is more important than Pakistan winning for them. You can, of course, substitute BCCI and India for Pakistan and PCB and it would still be true. Such a sad state.

Wait, what? How exactly are PCB making money off this?

 

[TNT]

Wait, what? How exactly are PCB making money off this?

6 months, 5-1
1 year evens
2 years 3-1
4 years 5-1
nothing 2-1

 

[Burgey]

I feel for Yasir here. Most Pak cricketers, except for the likes of Misbah, don't seem to be highly educated. I seriously doubt Yasir had enough knowledge to know to take that diuretic as a cover up for steroid use. After his freak injury the day before the 1st Test, Pak seemed quite desperate to rush him back for the remaining tests. Especially how they couldn't take 20 English wickets in Abu Dhabi. Which is why I suspect the Pak medical team gave him the steroid and then the diuretic to cover it up. Doesn't absolve Yasir because ignorance isn't an excuse, but I do feel for him. The PCB would never admit to this however. Doing so would have far higher consequences than losing just one bowler.

Pakistan can't keep making excuses about this sort of thing though. It's no excuse to essentially argue their players are peasant children. The PCB is massively dysfunctional, of course, but if it isn't talking to its players about drug and/ or gambling issues then I'm afraid it ill behoves them to seek leniency for the same players they haven't taken steps to educate.

 

[smash84]

I feel for Yasir here. Most Pak cricketers, except for the likes of Misbah, don't seem to be highly educated. I seriously doubt Yasir had enough knowledge to know to take that diuretic as a cover up for steroid use. After his freak injury the day before the 1st Test, Pak seemed quite desperate to rush him back for the remaining tests. Especially how they couldn't take 20 English wickets in Abu Dhabi. Which is why I suspect the Pak medical team gave him the steroid and then the diuretic to cover it up. Doesn't absolve Yasir because ignorance isn't an excuse, but I do feel for him. The PCB would never admit to this however. Doing so would have far higher consequences than losing just one bowler.

You're thinking of Yasir as an angel. His supposed excuse is that he took his wife's BP medication. That's bull****.

 

[Grumpy]

Pakistan can't keep making excuses about this sort of thing though. It's no excuse to essentially argue their players are peasant children. The PCB is massively dysfunctional, of course, but if it isn't talking to its players about drug and/ or gambling issues then I'm afraid it ill behoves them to seek leniency for the same players they haven't taken steps to educate.

1. I'm not making excuses for him. Read my post again - I stated ignorance is not an excuse.

2. I'm pretty sure the PCB does educate its players somewhat. I'm accusing of them of a much bigger crime - that this was done on purpose by the medical staff. I don't think the medical staff would have done this independently of their own accord - they were under instruction from the team management or the PCB themselves.

3. Taking the above into account, you can still feel empathy for Yasir. Years of toil in the domestic scene while Ajmal chucks himself to fame and glory. Finally gets his chance and makes an immediate impact in Test cricket. Gets a freak injury, takes tablets from the team doctor and his career is over.

 

[Grumpy]

You're thinking of Yasir as an angel. His supposed excuse is that he took his wife's BP medication. That's bull****.

I'm not calling Yasir an angel. I'm calling him an uneducated dunce. Which is why I don't believe he would known that diuretics can mask steroid use. I don't think anyone for a second believes that BS excuse. But what else will the PCB instruct him? The team doctor gave it to him. That would have far higher implications for the PCB than losing Yasir.

 

[Daemon]

I highly, highly doubt the PCB instructed him to do it. He'd just rat them out and they would then be in some deep ****.

 

[Grumpy]

I highly, highly doubt the PCB instructed him to do it. He'd just rat them out and they would then be in some deep ****.

And how exactly would he go around proving that? There would be no evidence of the team doctor prescribing him anything if this was done on purpose. Obviously everyone else would side with their employer, the PCB. And Yasir could kiss good bye any future association with Pak cricket (coach, administrator etc).

 

[indiaholic]

RAW conspiracy IMO.

 

[91Jmay]

To be fair on the match fixing side of things Pakistan have done extremely well to purge themselves of those elements in the last few years. The players reaction to Amir shows how seriously they are taking it.

 

[Niall]

I feel for Yasir here. Most Pak cricketers, except for the likes of Misbah, don't seem to be highly educated. I seriously doubt Yasir had enough knowledge to know to take that diuretic as a cover up for steroid use. After his freak injury the day before the 1st Test, Pak seemed quite desperate to rush him back for the remaining tests. Especially how they couldn't take 20 English wickets in Abu Dhabi. Which is why I suspect the Pak medical team gave him the steroid and then the diuretic to cover it up. Doesn't absolve Yasir because ignorance isn't an excuse, but I do feel for him. The PCB would never admit to this however. Doing so would have far higher consequences than losing just one bowler.

Not totally sure here, but pretty sure I have read Yasir is from a pretty decent well off family, yep their is players in the side who are from very poor backgrounds with little education, but confident that Yasir isn't one of those. I will wait for some of the Pakistani posters to confirm though.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Education is a problem in Pakistan....the literacy rate is around 30% and it includes those who can't read or write but only know how to sign stuff.

 

[honestbharani]

Wait, what? How exactly are PCB making money off this?

Not off this... But this is the whole classic WWE issue. More cricket Pakistan team plays, more revenue for the PCB. So they don't mind what the players are actually going through. They just want more matches, more series and more money, most of which goes to the suits who dont give a damn about the game or its players and are only in it to earn as much as they can.

 

[TNT]

To be fair on the match fixing side of things Pakistan have done extremely well to purge themselves of those elements in the last few years. The players reaction to Amir shows how seriously they are taking it.

ICC and English Police have done a fair bit but what have Pakistan done, name one player charged or fined by the PCB.

 

[Grumpy]

But you can say about that any board. Especially the Big 3.

 

[marc71178]

Education is a problem in Pakistan....the literacy rate is around 30% and it includes those who can't read or write but only know how to sign stuff.

Sorry, but that doesn't wash when they get to this level. A professional sportsman is taught what he can and can't do.