**Official** New Zealand in Australia 2015

[Bahnz]

Well, I guess it's help up better than the white ball...

Speaking of which, how long till the pink ball takes over in ODI's? It actually seems like it might be a really good fit for that format.

 

[Gnske]

You are a well versed poster and a veteran of this forum to whom I look up to. Try to agree with me at all costs while on CW. And make clear pisstakes obvious or else I'll take it as serious. As it stands your post merely reinforces my inferior feelings towards superior Australian posting. You found a piece of filth you disagreed with so somehow all my posts are "filth". A trifle GOAT in your well-informed, articulate and convincing analysis.

Fixed.

I wish people would say what really belongs in their hearts.

 

[Hurricane]

Fixed.

I wish people would say what really belongs in their hearts.

Excellent. Sorry for biting at your joke. You are new to me so I thought you might be serious. Well played,

 

[Adders]

Gnske. I feel someone needs to tell you so it may as well be me..........the only person that thinks you're clever and amusing is you. If you were a "court jester" the King would have taken off your head once he got bored of you inside 5 minutes mate.

 

[Gnske]

Gnske. I feel someone needs to tell you so it may as well be me..........the only person that thinks you're clever and amusing is you. If you were a "court jester" the King would have taken off your head once he got bored of you inside 5 minutes mate.

Now I really know I'm comedic genius.

 

[Daemon]

Adders raises a good question. How many people here have skills that would entertain a King for 5 minutes?

 

[indiaholic]

Adders raises a good question. How many people here have skills that would entertain a King for 5 minutes?

OS will certainly get a job:

All hail Stuart of the House Binny, first of his name, king of the dibblies and the dobblies, lord of the cricketing kingdom, Destroyer of Bangers and banger of Langer.

 

[Gob]

Justin Langer?

 

[cnerd123]

Justin Langer?

Mayanti Langer. Binny's wife.

Educate yourself fool.

 

[Julian87]

YOung keeper with 8 dismissals thus far.

 

[Bossbabe909]

Guptill scored 103 with pink ball, MaC and santner also played handy knock.Watling 81
Wagner took 5Fier,santner 4

Vs western australia

 

[Gob]

Man I want to r00t that chick so hard

 

[Furball]

One of my biggest weaknesses as a batsman was sweeping vs spin. I was never comfortable sweeping with a short leg in because I was terrified I'd hit the poor bloke. I actually could play the shot well but that close in fielder put me off so much that I was never decisive enough. Hate the position.

Should have smacked him until he moved.

 

[Furball]

So England, SA and NZ. Yet other than Steyn and Broad the rest are more medium than fast IMO. Most of them rely on movement that they won't get touring Aus. So when we talk about being able to Test Warner it's down to 3 countries when he is touring them. SA touring Aus the exception due to similarity in conditions for Styne and Morkel.

Anderson's probably faster than Broad.

 

[Furball]

Yeah Lyon being Australian is a massive part of his success there. He's a smart bowler but that didn't help him when he bowled in UAE and failed to adjust his length properly to SC conditions and got tonked badly.

Same thing happens to Asian spinners in England.

It's as if conditions differ depending on where in the world you're playing cricket.

 

[Furball]

Gnske. I feel someone needs to tell you so it may as well be me..........the only person that thinks you're clever and amusing is you. If you were a "court jester" the King would have taken off your head once he got bored of you inside 5 minutes mate.

Hey I like him

 

[OverratedSanity]

Same thing happens to Asian spinners in England.

It's as if conditions differ depending on where in the world you're playing cricket.

That was my point

 

[Furball]

Remind me to introduce you to my buddy sarcasm the next time we go bowling.

 

[SteveNZ]

This is an unequivocal fact

Where Craig fits in as a cricketer IMO is a decent club-standard batting all-rounder. How he became a Test-match specialist bowler is probably just one of life's freak occurrences.

No, it isn't a fact at all. I'm sure you'll furnish me with statistics and paper work that suggest that is the case.

I'm probably not the best to comment on it, as I'm a bit sycophantic in regards to an old club mate. Or maybe I am because I know Mark's full story. He wasn't a full-time offie until around 7 years ago, into his 20s. That's ridiculously late for a spinner to learn his craft. His key assets are his height, ability to get drift, bounce, and a decent bit of turn. His strength has never been his pitch map, which yeah Kane may have over him. After being picked last year, he's done as well - if not better - than could have been expected given where he was at. Remembering he was picked because Jeetan turned down touring the Windies, he's won us Test matches since then. He's come to Australia, having never been attacked to the level he's been exposed to over here. NZ batsmen as a rule don't use their feet and dominate spinners like the likes of Warner, Burns, Smith etc do and unsurprisingly, on flat wickets that haven't turned much, he's gone for runs. Where's the surprise? Would there be another NZ spinner - save for Vettori - who wouldn't have got tap?

He'll do his best bowling in 2-3 years time, having been exposed to conditions and batsmen all around the world. Whether or not he's still in the side by then, who knows. Given our history, probably not.

And let's all be realistic, he's not going to get results this week. Sounds like it's either going to be a greenish one that holds together all week to save this pissant pink ball, or it'll be the usual Adelaide gives nothing at all with short square boundaries pitch. He'll get a raggy old pink ball that doesn't have much air in it, and he'll bowl during the day when batsmen are looking to make hay before the seamers get the ball after dusk. You'd hope he can tie an end up but that's not the bowler he is right now. And from all reports, Santner bowled real loose **** this week as well.

I dunno, as I say I'm probably blinded but I think the criticism of him personally, bowling wise, is weak. Batting I can understand, definitely. But the selectors picked him and he's pretty much done exactly as you'd expect, if not a bit more in winning Test matches in the fourth innings - which even Dan V didn't do in his last 4-5 years.

 

[hendrix]

Agreed.

Will stand by Craig, in lou of Jeets.