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How did Bradman get as good as he did?

AldoRaine18

State Vice-Captain
That's interesting. Modern players would average more than they do today as long as they didn't have issues playing without helmets. They are professionals today while they were amateurs in the 30s and 40s. Tendulkar 10-20% more.
What average to do you think SRT/Lara would have had in late 1800s and early 1900s, while playing on uncovered pitches?
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
But essentially Windies of 83 and Aussies of 75-76 were playing lower standard of cricket than today, right? Then how can the Windies of 83 have a chance against today's teams?
Two three decades is not that much that a great in that era wouldn't boss the next.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
What average to do you think SRT/Lara would have had in late 1800s and early 1900s, while playing on uncovered pitches?
More than any from that era considering they have more shots in their armoury than those of that era. Batting today is far more advanced than it was 100 years back.
 

AldoRaine18

State Vice-Captain
A lot more considering they have more shots in their armoury than those of that era. Batting today is far more advanced than it was 100 years back.
But they play those shots on well protected pitches where they can estimate how the ball would behave much better than you can on an uncovered pitch? Or would WG Grace and Victor Trumper not benefit by having flat roads instead of wet minefields having played their careers on those?

You can't have it both ways fella.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
The Invincibles v Australians of the 90s is a more interesting one in my mind. The Australians of the 90s would probably win a 5 test series 3-1 or 2-1. It doesn't matter though. The basic thing is standards have imrpoved over the years. I don't see why people find it revolting. It's true in every sport. That doesn't mean we are saying older players were dire. Both can exist together - that standards have improved and there have been amazing players in the sport.
 

AldoRaine18

State Vice-Captain
The Invincibles v Australians of the 90s is a more interesting one in my mind. The Australians of the 90s would probably win a 5 test series 3-1 or 2-1. It doesn't matter though. The basic thing is standards have imrpoved over the years. I don't see why people find it revolting. It's true in every sport. That doesn't mean we are saying older players were dire. Both can exist together - that standards have improved and there have been amazing players in the sport.
It's because 'improved' is a wrong word to use, simple as. Things change in every sport, and you can only judge a player on what he was allowed to play around, and can never compare, in any sport. Comparisons across eras are nothing more than humour for nerds on a forum. It has no basis.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
But they play those shots on well protected pitches where they can estimate how the ball would behave much better than you can on an uncovered pitch? Or would WG Grace and Victor Trumper not benefit by having flat roads instead of wet minefields having played their careers on those?

You can't have it both ways fella.
Given the standard of cricket was far lower 100 years back, pretty sure Lara and Tendulkar would have adopted.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Bradman wasn't that good.
These words are so bad.

Why do people on CW want to downplay Bradman? So annoying. His legacy is great for the sport we love. Its awesome that our sport produced such a ridiculously crazy good sportsperson.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
It's because 'improved' is a wrong word to use, simple as. Things change in every sport, and you can only judge a player on what he was allowed to play around, and can never compare, in any sport. Comparisons across eras are nothing more than humour for nerds on a forum. It has no basis.
How does it have no basis? Are athletes not running faster today? Are there not more players playing cricket today and is it not a more professional sport?
 

OverratedSanity

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How does it have no basis? Are athletes not running faster today? Are there not more players playing cricket today and is it not a more professional sport?
None of that means Bradman would've been worse today if he was raised in these conditions. This isn't difficult to understand.
 

indiaholic

International Captain
How does it have no basis? Are athletes not running faster today? Are there not more players playing cricket today and is it not a more professional sport?
About the athletes running fatser.. Most of it can be attributed to improvements in the quality of the track they are running on.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
These words are so bad.

Why do people on CW want to downplay Bradman? So annoying. His legacy is great for the sport we love. Its awesome that our sport produced such a ridiculously crazy good sportsperson.
I am reminded of how people refer to as good. We can't question God. We have lived like this regarding Bradman as cricket fans. I love Bradman as well. But any one who thinks he would average lower than 99.9 80 years later has broken a sacred trust. I don't get it. It is good for the sport that standards have improved in 80 years, not bad. No one is saying Bradman wouldn't have been great or the greatest even.
 

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