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*Official* Fourth Test at Trent Bridge
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dontcloseyoureyes
BARNES OUT
That's hardly special. He goes on and on about every damn dismissal.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Oh I know but he was really sticking the boot in. Sounded more exaggerated than usual
Can't get enough of that Stokes catch
burr
State Vice-Captain
The worst part of this 60 is it won't come as that much of a surprise to anyone who's followed Australian cricket for a while. Nobody who genuinely knows a bit about Aussie cricket (that I know of at least) was crowing about some 3-1 scoreline our way. Because we all know our batting is incredibly fragile when the track’s not flat and we're not front-running. Maybe not 60 all out but prone to collapse consistently.
So what are the powers that be in Aussie cricket doing about it? I hope they do something in terms of the structure of the game and reinstating Sheffield Shield as the premier competition. Because we as Australian fans who love the game deserve more than a test side without the fundamental skills to compete in tough conditions at the highest level. Test cricket deserves more - we need sides that can hold their own away from home, we need games that are to and fro, enthralling, not over by day one. Don't want to overreact but I love test cricket above all forms of sport and I feel passionately about this topic!
Anyway, well done Stuart Broad and well done Joe Root. Broad was very humble in his interview and Root is a class batsman that I genuinely enjoy watching.
So what are the powers that be in Aussie cricket doing about it? I hope they do something in terms of the structure of the game and reinstating Sheffield Shield as the premier competition. Because we as Australian fans who love the game deserve more than a test side without the fundamental skills to compete in tough conditions at the highest level. Test cricket deserves more - we need sides that can hold their own away from home, we need games that are to and fro, enthralling, not over by day one. Don't want to overreact but I love test cricket above all forms of sport and I feel passionately about this topic!
Anyway, well done Stuart Broad and well done Joe Root. Broad was very humble in his interview and Root is a class batsman that I genuinely enjoy watching.
Howe_zat
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He always does this because to him, a seaming wicket in England is still the default state of affairs and watching what happens on one what is how you measure 'genuine' Test batting ability
It's not, obviously. Test cricket is primarily about succeeding on flat, hard pitches with bounce (especially in the southern hemisphere) and so this is what happens when the majority of batsmen can succeed by maximising how well they score in those conditions.
Players who can adapt their play to score in all conditions - your Dravids, Kallises, Sangakkaras - are Test cricket's golden eggs and despite having relatively more of them playing in the 2000s it's hard to pick one right now thanks to something of a generation gap.
The current lot of rising stars - Smith, Root, Kohli - all have holes in their resume but generally have spectacular improvement as part of their shtick so we'll see where it goes
Howe_zat
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All good length and moving away?
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Biryani Pillow
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Have heard some (in other social media) claiming that this was a dreadful pitch and a disgrace to cricket (oh, and 'cheating'). Comments like "it's so green you can't distinguish it from the rest of the field". I'm currently looking at the wickets on 5.
Rogers: Straightened a fraction off the pitch but Rogers had opened himself up by putting his front leg straight down the pitch, which caused the edge.
Smith: Wandered so far across hie stumps and edged a ball, which did very little, he could have left along.
Warner: Seemed to do a bit in the air and a touch more off the pitch. Good ball but look where his feet were pointing when it reached him.
Marsh: Straightforward ball, just pushed at it
Voges: I heard some talking about it like it moved a foot. It seamed away a little but if you push firmly at a moving ball catches can happen.Great catch though, maybe the best slip pouch I've ever seen.
Clarke: Mind could have been scrambled by then, it swung away a little but no footwork.
Nevill: Looked, and was, a decent ball but he just moved laterally, never really got back or forward,
Starc: Late order batsman, ball seamed but was short enough to have left.
Johnson: See above
Lyon: Tailender excuses allowed.
The pitch didn't do much (if any) more than you often see in England on a first morning - these are Test bowlers after all.
It was very good, disciplined bowling and batting techniques set up to fail against even minimal movement if the bowling is consistent.
It should have been about 80-3 at lunch.
There was still movement during the rest of the day but watch how much later the English batsmen played the ball.
Rogers: Straightened a fraction off the pitch but Rogers had opened himself up by putting his front leg straight down the pitch, which caused the edge.
Smith: Wandered so far across hie stumps and edged a ball, which did very little, he could have left along.
Warner: Seemed to do a bit in the air and a touch more off the pitch. Good ball but look where his feet were pointing when it reached him.
Marsh: Straightforward ball, just pushed at it
Voges: I heard some talking about it like it moved a foot. It seamed away a little but if you push firmly at a moving ball catches can happen.Great catch though, maybe the best slip pouch I've ever seen.
Clarke: Mind could have been scrambled by then, it swung away a little but no footwork.
Nevill: Looked, and was, a decent ball but he just moved laterally, never really got back or forward,
Starc: Late order batsman, ball seamed but was short enough to have left.
Johnson: See above
Lyon: Tailender excuses allowed.
The pitch didn't do much (if any) more than you often see in England on a first morning - these are Test bowlers after all.
It was very good, disciplined bowling and batting techniques set up to fail against even minimal movement if the bowling is consistent.
It should have been about 80-3 at lunch.
There was still movement during the rest of the day but watch how much later the English batsmen played the ball.
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harsh.ag
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I keep trying to have an opinion on today's play but all I have managed so far is...
But honestly, the Aussie batting with regards to playing away from their bodies, not just outside the off stump, but meeting the ball much farther ahead than they need to is utterly shambolic from a prep point of view. For all the talk of video analysis nowadays, one would have thought they would check out some of Dravid's innings here. Dravid had more class on his test debut than the whole bunch of these Aussies.
Howe_zat
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A few of the dismissals really could be put down as unplayable.
Only a few, though. My favourite right now looks to be Shaun Marsh.
15/3 in the second over of the day from Broad's end on a bowler's pitch. You're on 0. Do you
(a) Only choose between forward defense and leaving for now, try to judge the pace of the wicket, wait for a bad ball to get you going
(b) Try to work a single to get off strike
(c) MASSIVE DRIVE
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dontcloseyoureyes
BARNES OUT
I'd like to lock in (c), Howey.A few of the dismissals really could be put down as unplayable.
Only a few, though. My favourite right now looks to be Shaun Marsh.
15/3 in the second over of the day from Broad's end on a bowler's pitch. You're on 0. Do you
(a) Only choose between forward defense and leaving for now, try to judge the pace of the wicket, wait for a bad ball to get you going
(b) Try to work a single to get off strike
(c) MASSIVE DRIVE
Biryani Pillow
U19 Vice-Captain
A few of the dismissals really could be put down as unplayable.
Only a few, though. My favourite right now looks to be Shaun Marsh.
15/3 in the second over of the day from Broad's end on a bowler's pitch? Do you
(a) Only choose between forward defense and leaving for now, try to judge the pace of the wicket, wait for a bad ball to get you going
(b) Try to work a single to get off strike
(c) MASSIVE DRIVE
He pushed hard at a ball that, at worst, moved a fraction. Not unplayable with a decent technique
That there was, I understand, only one play and miss during the innings suggests that there was nothing unplayable. I didn't see a ball that 'jagged'.
That is a 290-320 first innings pitch I reckon - which is not a bad pitch - if both sides play decently.
Early call - James Anderson will not play at The Oval.
Howe_zat
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