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***Official*** India in Australia 2014-5

cnerd123

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Justo said:
Smith finds his place in the Australian batting pantheon.

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Quite interesting how the rest have atleast 6000 runs.

Suggests Aus doesn't pick batsmen to have brief careers and ditch them. Other countries will have quite a few batsmen with 1K-2K runs and a nice average.
 
ankitj

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Congrats Australia on a well deserved win.

On India - good to see some godd batting efforts. But bowling continues to let us down. Not hopeful tbh that it's going to be solved any time soon. Pretty much every promising fast bowler we set our eyes on goes on to be crap sooner rather than later. Worst thing is that it doesn't even surprise or shock me as a fan. Think batting of the two sides were even, bowling was the difference.

Awesome future for Smith and Kohli in test cricket I suppose. They should go on to dominate the next decade.
 
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Spark

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There surely must be something about FC cricket because Yadav and Aaron clearly have the natural talent to be quality fast bowlers, but they just have no idea what they're doing half the time, they just run up and bowl whatever the **** happens to come out. I've heard there's been a lot of greentops in Ranji of late, that may be contributing to it a lot because they need to learn how to do exactly what Hazlewood has done in this test and bowl 20 overs a day and take 1/60 at worst, day in day out. I think they just try to bowl magic balls way too often, hence the steady diet of legside pies or rubbish attempted bouncers.

Fully agree with Burgey's idea of getting them into CC.
 
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Tangles said:
Not sure why people are writing off Rogers yet. Will go to England.
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People are doing that? Geez, my country would sign him up until his 50th birthday. With our middle order, a guy who can score 50 off 150 balls would be absolute gold dust. As it is for Australia. It not only sets a platform for Smith and co, it also means Twatto doesn't make 10-1 30-2.
 
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Spark said:
There surely must be something about FC cricket because Yadav and Aaron clearly have the natural talent to be quality fast bowlers, but they just have no idea what they're doing half the time, they just run up and bowl whatever the **** happens to come out. I've heard there's been a lot of greentops in Ranji of late, that may be contributing to it a lot because they need to learn how to do exactly what Hazlewood has done in this test and bowl 20 overs a day and take 1/60 at worst, day in day out. I think they just try to bowl magic balls way too often, hence the steady diet of legside pies or rubbish attempted bouncers.

Fully agree with Burgey's idea of getting them into CC.
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Yeah most Indians have wanted our players to play domestic cricket overseas for ages. It's benefited nearly everyone who went there for a substantial period of time.

The Ranji pitches at the moment are an absolute joke.
 
honestbharani

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ankitj said:
Love how you keep bringing Dhoni in it. How about Pointing? Cheated unabashedly in broad daylight.

Frankly, I didn't want to say anything about it. Things may happen in heat of the moment. Too petty to bicker over. But only because of this post, I'm responding.
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Clarke is the king of claiming one bounce catches, hey....

Think I remember Steve Waugh basically picking the ball from the ground and claiming a catch against Srikkanth in the 90s.. Sure it must be on youtube...



There ya go...



Guess most of this team would have grown up watching that generation :p
 
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Ashwin getting a bit of unfair criticism from Manjrekar and Chopra TThere's no way he should've bowled any more attacking lines than he did with the pacers going at 6+ rpo.

He's definitely getting better and it's just a shame he's been in and out of the side constantly for overseas tests and somehow always manages to get dropped from the match played on a Turner. Finger spinners need something from the pitch to be truly effective so it was stupid he was dropped in favour of Jadeja in SA on a pitch where even Sir got a 6fer, didn't play on a turner in England, forget which venue, and didn't play here in Adelaide. Spinners need extended periods to get used to overseas conditions... Hell, Lyon still has no idea how to bowl on Asian surfaces because he's been in and out if the side in overseas tests just like Ashwin. Atleast he got 3 on the trot here,
Would be stupid if he's dropped again in the next away tour.
 
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cnerd123

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Blocky banned for a year. That's so amazing.

Kinda glad WW is only banned for a week. I miss him already. He's great entertainment value.
 
honestbharani

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India need to thank the only 3 decent players they had this series. Vijay, Rahane and Kholi have been brilliant. The Australians have been pretty good, but could have been better, with the exception of Smith who was just freakish.

The real unsung heroes are the Australian administrators in conjuction with the groundsmen who behind the scenes really helped set up a relatively competitive series. The pitches and conditions were set up to help India as much as possible, which is what the fans would want rather than see a 4-nil thrashing by an innings each game which probably would have happened if bouncy, green tracks were prepared (this is the kind of thing India would have done, and have done when Australia tour and they prepare dust-bowls on which the game played can barely really be called 'cricket').
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Man those 2013 grapes must have soured even further now 8-)
 
honestbharani

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Burgey said:
I think India's batting is going to develop into something very good. IT was much better than their last tour here, though I thinknhe bowling was worse, the main difference being no Zaheer who always asked questions at the back end of his career.

Australia simply needs to find a reliable number three asap. I suspect TPC will end up there in the long term. Warner obviously is a gun, but we need a replacement for Rogers given his stated intention of retiring post-Ashes.

I'm not necessarily convinced by MMarsh at six in a side with so many question marks over the batting, but tbf he hasn't done a lot wrong in the games he's played. Looking towards next summer, assuming Clarke plays on, I suspect the top six might be something like:

Gravy
Cowan/ Silk/ IRDK
TPC
Clarkeh
Joe Dirt
MMarsh/ Twatto

Not too worried about the keeper. There's a few good 'uns around.

The bowling will likely be:

MJ
Harris (subject to every body part)
Haze
Lyon

Not a bad side, but still a lot of question marks over the batting.

If I was india I'd seriously look to give Yadav, Arun and Shami county stints very soon. I really think there's something to work with there, but there's three young blokes who need seasoning. Bhuvi can't be bagged for not being himself this test after a lay off. No worries with Ashwin, who I thought was pretty decent in the games he played. Never a dearth of spinning quality in India anyway.
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I honestly think the sooner they get Pattinson and Starc upto speed in test cricket, the better they will be... MJ might be gone soon enough and Harris is always a question mark in terms of fitness... I reckon in a couple of years if Aussies put out Pattinson, Starc, Hazelwood, Lyon and Mitch Marsh as their attack, it would be a freaking awesome one at least in such bouncy conditions...
 
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