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India should go for the win tho.
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***Official*** India in Australia 2014-5
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RossTaylorsBox
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Hmm, wonder if India would have taken 2-1 at the start of this series.
OverratedSanity
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Series defeat is disappointing no matter what, but 2-1 isn't bad.... If that one victory comes in a live test.
RossTaylorsBox
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Yeah that's what I mean, from a numbers point of view they'll be just as successful as any other Indian team.
Teja.
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Would have grabbed it without thinking twice. The two favourites for predictions in the general consensus were 3-0 and 4-0.
2-1 with a dead rubber win is radically different from a legit 2-1 though.
It's not like we're particularly close to a victory right now anyway so this is a v. far fetched hypothetical at this stage
Blocky
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India really have to look at their team composition moving forward and work out where the hell they're going to get some seamers from, this has to be a highly disappointing performance considering their position in world cricket, their wealth and such.
I can't believe India doesn't have better bowlers sitting back at home, just doesn't seem possible.
I can't believe India doesn't have better bowlers sitting back at home, just doesn't seem possible.
Jimbo the giant
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Risk and reward both can be true simultaneously. Aussie has a big lead, not much of a risk going for the win and a victory looks so much better than a draw in terms of legacy. India have only a small chance of victory but a victory here will be a great achievement and will give the team great belief for the future. India have a decent chance of losing even if they try to draw so they might as well go for the win.
Blocky
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I really rate India's chances at victory if they get this score and 90 overs.
They don't have many left hand batsman to be exposed by the footmarks and Nathan Lyon. They score at a naturally fast rate, the only real proven dangerous bowler in the opposition is Ryan Harris and on this pitch, he's been more of a holding bowler rather than a real demon. They've got some in form players and outside of Ashwin today, none of the pace bowlers on this pitch have seemed likely to rip through a side without the batsman making a series of errors.
Let's just remember, Australia haven't reduced India to under 400 in the first innings of any match here yet, it's not like they've been all over them in every innings, it's more so been that India's bowlers have been even worse than Australias.
They don't have many left hand batsman to be exposed by the footmarks and Nathan Lyon. They score at a naturally fast rate, the only real proven dangerous bowler in the opposition is Ryan Harris and on this pitch, he's been more of a holding bowler rather than a real demon. They've got some in form players and outside of Ashwin today, none of the pace bowlers on this pitch have seemed likely to rip through a side without the batsman making a series of errors.
Let's just remember, Australia haven't reduced India to under 400 in the first innings of any match here yet, it's not like they've been all over them in every innings, it's more so been that India's bowlers have been even worse than Australias.
longranger
U19 Cricketer
It's been a shame that we don't have any bowlers to support Ashwin who was quite good today. Bhuvi has literally become a medium pacer and the less said of Umesh Yadav the better. How Virat Kohli didn't give him an earful mid-over is beyond me. He bowled an awful line - he should slowed his pace a bit to concentrate on bowling in the right areas. Instead, he's continued bowling fast not caring about the direction, assuming that the Aussie batsmen, like some awful batsmen he must have played against domestically, will shudder at his pace and get out by themselves.
That being said, the test is interestingly poised. If they declare tomorrow, 348 is very gettable in 90 overs, especially if Kohli leads from the front. I presume Australia will come out swinging tomorrow morning to give an unattainable target of 400+. But that will dramatically increase the odds of a tame draw.
That being said, the test is interestingly poised. If they declare tomorrow, 348 is very gettable in 90 overs, especially if Kohli leads from the front. I presume Australia will come out swinging tomorrow morning to give an unattainable target of 400+. But that will dramatically increase the odds of a tame draw.
Have you seen starc's last spell? If he can get it to reverse again there's no way india will win.
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The rough here won't be as good as it was for Lyon there though.
Blocky
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He bowled well by his standard, but look at how easy Kohli and Rahul found batting against him for most of the time they were there, also look at Kohli's numbers for the series. 350 really only requires two batsmen to get good innings and a few supporting roles to take place. I think in the next 10-15 years in test cricket we'll see a lot of fourth innings chases breaking records solely due to how quickly batsmen can score these days and also how pitches seem to have lost that characteristic of detoriation in this era.
No they didn't find it easy batting against him. I don't know how you define 3 wickets at under 3RPO as easy.
Do people understand why there are rarely such big chases, even in the modern game? It's because the pitch will make it very tough to bat on. The only reasons australia scored so quickly today was because of a total ****house performance by the indian quicks that fails to build any pressure. Australia built pressure incredibly well during india's first innings. We actually did bowl incredibly well. If we could hold onto our catches it would be a different story.
Still have to see how the 5th day pitch is but going by how the 4th day is I'm not going bet on it holding up.
Do people understand why there are rarely such big chases, even in the modern game? It's because the pitch will make it very tough to bat on. The only reasons australia scored so quickly today was because of a total ****house performance by the indian quicks that fails to build any pressure. Australia built pressure incredibly well during india's first innings. We actually did bowl incredibly well. If we could hold onto our catches it would be a different story.
Still have to see how the 5th day pitch is but going by how the 4th day is I'm not going bet on it holding up.
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Blocky
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Jesus - when a team is 3/238 against the new ball bowlers, they're not exactly finding it hard. The pitch isn't that difficult to bat on unless you've got a leg spinner or you're a left armer vs the off spinner. The reason teams haven't won with big chases in the past is that in the past, scoring at 3.5+ an over was consider impossible. Look at the run rates throughout this series to see how much that has changed. There will be a LOT more 4th innings chases in the next 10-15 years that are successful. I guarantee it. You've already seen some and some go close ( i.e Kohli smashing 70 against NZ in the 4th innings this time last year. )
Swingpanzee
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Look if Australia hold on to their catches tomorrow they win/