Are tons really that impressive in this era?

[Blocky]

Johnson hasnt Been helped by poor catching.

Hazelwood has bowled pretty good lines top.

IMO the pitches have Been so awful.

Yeah that's definitely the other factor, the fielding for both sides has been absolutely dreadful, never seen so many easy catches dropped in a series.

 

[harsh.ag]

Did Johnson ever bowl 154 kmph? I would be surprised to know, but good for him!

I guess at the end of the day, Indian batsmen have tended to be good against spin everywhere (apart from Murail-****ing-dharan). Lyon's been fine. Can't call decent bowling bad bowling. It's not great bowling, but it's not easy either.

 

[GotSpin]

Yeah that's definitely the other factor, the fielding for both sides has been absolutely dreadful, never seen so many easy catches dropped in a series.

Its just unforgiveable to drop that many catches on flat wickets.

 

[Noah]

I have no problem with you rooting for the guy though (he's a class player) and clearly you have a cheerleader on this thread so good luck.

I've been on this forum for less than a day and you're already trying to pigeonhole me as a Kohli fanboy rather than treating the points on their merit? Could you at least wait until I've been here two days before you start deciding that I have a bias (ie. blatant nationalism or being someone's cheerleader) which warrants my opinions being discounted.

After reading a few of your posts I could decided that you are simply a bitter West Indian who is desperate to cheapen the success of modern day batsmen and wants to remind everyone about how much better the cricket was in the glory days of the West Indies. However, I haven't done that because that is unfair and I think your original contention has merit and therefore I should play the point rather than the man. The least you could do is return the courtesy.

 

[Blocky]

I don't think that is really true. From what I've seen of Kohli in England and Kohli now, he has moved across his stumps more to protect them, which is one the most important corrections a batsmen has to make if he is nicking the ball too much. Obviously you can't judge its effectiveness until he has to face similar bowling but he has certainly adjusted his game in response to his struggles in England.



I assume you're implying that the pitches are flat and bowling attacks are weak, which isn't entirely true and certainly isn't the main reason for the excess of runs. A very high percentage of games are producing results, which would indicate that the pitches aren't all flat batting heavens and I'd say the quality of the bowling attacks around the world are actually relatively strong at the moment (certainly compared to other years in the noughties). If you're concerned about boring run-fests, I think the answers lie elsewhere and have already been raised by others in this thread: bigger bats; better and faster outfields; shorter boundaries; and a glut of in-form batsmen.

Yeah of course I'm entitled to an opinion; what a banal statement. If you have no interest in engaging on any level why bother making a thread that appear to ask for opinions and gives the illusion that you're interested in a debate or discussion. That's 5 minutes of my life that I'll never get back.

To be honest, you've kind of posted in such a way that making that assessment could be considered accurate. You're trying to imply that the pitches aren't flat and that the bowlers aren't weak when we're seeing batting records be broken left right and centre. He's within his rights to consider you a Kohli cheerleader with a statement such as that.

 

[harsh.ag]

To be honest, you've kind of posted in such a way that making that assessment could be considered accurate. You're trying to imply that the pitches aren't flat and that the bowlers aren't weak when we're seeing batting records be broken left right and centre. He's within his rights to consider you a Kohli cheerleader with a statement such as that.

I need to know this - If somehow, someone can make such a connection, why would Noah not be a way bigger candidate for a Smith cheerleader, given that Smith has actually faced bad bowling, and that Noah is, you know, Australian?!

 

[Blocky]

I need to know this - If somehow, someone can make such a connection, why would Noah not be a way bigger candidate for a Smith cheerleader, given that Smith has actually faced bad bowling, and that Noah is, you know, Australian?!

He'd mentioned Kohli more so than Smith, I think more so the fact that Noah took so much offense at WW saying "You're entitled to your opinion" and started a **** fight indicates to me that A: He isn't actually new to the forums and B: He doesn't have much room to stand around play the point, not the man.

Also, get that you're a fan of India but the Australian bowling attack in this game is dreadful and across the series has only been marginally better.

 

[sledger]

Let's not let things like logic and reason get in the way of a good straw man.

Edit: @ HarshAG

 

[Flem274*]

I suspect Noah prefers his own boat tbh.

 

[sledger]

I suspect Noah prefers his own boat tbh.

Yes, on the evidence of his posts, I think you're in your rights to consider him a boat cheerleader.

 

[Spark]

I need to know this - If somehow, someone can make such a connection, why would Noah not be a way bigger candidate for a Smith cheerleader, given that Smith has actually faced bad bowling, and that Noah is, you know, Australian?!

i think noah is english given the avatar

 

[cnerd123]

Looks like Blocky has taken over bowling duties. Noah scored heavily off WW's dodgy spinners here on his debut, lets see how he fares against Blocky's seamers.

The tip is to realise Blocky doesnt bowl as quickly as he likes to think he does.

 

[sledger]

i think noah is english given the avatar

Which, in all probability, would probably make it extremely unlikely for him to be a cheerleader of either India or Australia, quite honestly.

 

[Noah]

To be honest, you've kind of posted in such a way that making that assessment could be considered accurate. You're trying to imply that the pitches aren't flat and that the bowlers aren't weak when we're seeing batting records be broken left right and centre. He's within his rights to consider you a Kohli cheerleader with a statement such as that.

No, I don't think those things logically follow at all.

In fact, drawing that conclusion would just suggest that one didn't read the rest of the post where I tried to offer a variety of reasons for the increase in runs. Of those reasons, the closest I come to cheerleading is that I noted that Kohli is an "in-form batsmen". It is a stretch of unimaginable proportions to say that recognising that a player is "in-form" or even recognising a genuinely high quality innings makes you a cheerleader.

I'm sure you wouldn't be thrilled if I came after you and dismissed your opinions as cheerleading the next time you tried to defend Player X from detractors, especially if all you were saying is that Player X was in-form or had played a genuinely good innings against a good attack (especially when that opinion is widely supported).

 

[BackFootPunch]

To be honest, you've kind of posted in such a way that making that assessment could be considered accurate. You're trying to imply that the pitches aren't flat and that the bowlers aren't weak when we're seeing batting records be broken left right and centre. He's within his rights to consider you a Kohli cheerleader with a statement such as that.

What on earth is this? Even in the posts you've quoted he's explained why he thinks batting records are being broken. Nowhere does he say that it's all down to Kohli being the next coming of Bradman. And he's certainly not doing a whole lot of cheerleading. Noah clearly stated that it's not just about crap bowlers or flat pitches but involves other factors too. WW got ****ty at him because he had the temerity to disagree with the intention of this thread, which isn't exactly new behaviour from WW btw, so you're drawing a heck of a long bow to try and call him a cheerleader.

Noah seems a damn good poster so far, let us hope he's not put off by people who are seemingly intolerant of those who dare to have a different opinion (an opinion which has been well articulated, I might add).

 

[sledger]

No, I don't think those things logically follow at all.

In fact, drawing that conclusion would just suggest that one didn't read the rest of the post where I tried to offer a variety of reasons for the increase in runs. Of those reasons, the closest I come to cheerleading is that I noted that Kohli is an "in-form batsmen". It is a stretch of unimaginable proportions to say that recognising that a player is "in-form" or even recognising a genuinely high quality innings makes you a cheerleader.

I'm sure you wouldn't be thrilled if I came after you and dismissed your opinions as cheerleading the next time you tried to defend Player X from detractors, especially if all you were saying is that Player X was in-form or had played a genuinely good innings against a good attack (especially when that opinion is widely supported).

I shouldn't worry, there are actually decent posters on here. It's probably for the best that you're getting this phase of inexpedience out of the way early.

 

[Blocky]

No, I don't think those things logically follow at all.

In fact, drawing that conclusion would just suggest that one didn't read the rest of the post where I tried to offer a variety of reasons for the increase in runs. Of those reasons, the closest I come to cheerleading is that I noted that Kohli is an "in-form batsmen". It is a stretch of unimaginable proportions to say that recognising that a player is "in-form" or even recognising a genuinely high quality innings makes you a cheerleader.

I'm sure you wouldn't be thrilled if I came after you and dismissed your opinions as cheerleading the next time you tried to defend Player X from detractors, especially if all you were saying is that Player X was in-form or had played a genuinely good innings against a good attack (especially when that opinion is widely supported).

I don't really have thin enough skin to be emotionally upset if someone dismisses my opinions, considering I spend most of the time in the forums arguing opinions that people don't quite like or agree with - i.e Australia having the worst bowling attack they've had in years during this series and the Steven Smith show being more down to how bad India is and how easy the pitches are to bat on versus Steven Smith being anything other than an above average player.

The point I'm making more so is that he's within his rights to not bother engaging with you and state "You're entitled to your opinion" without you turning it into some **** show about him being upset over something. The amount of debate in this thread about the quality of recent runs and the back and forth on whether 100 means as much anymore should show you that his ideas have merit, acting like they don't just seems like yet another individual jumping on the "Let's attack WW mercilessly because he's passionate about his own team and dares to state his opinions" bandwagon. To quote you, that's pretty Banal"

 

[Spark]

Well got ****ing boring, ****ing fast.

No more tone-police in this thread, kthx. Whatever the merits of the previous debate it may be, it's infinitely more interesting than this.

 

[Blocky]

What on earth is this? Even in the posts you've quoted he's explained why he thinks batting records are being broken. Nowhere does he say that it's all down to Kohli being the next coming of Bradman. And he's certainly not doing a whole lot of cheerleading. Noah clearly stated that it's not just about crap bowlers or flat pitches but involves other factors too. WW got ****ty at him because he had the temerity to disagree with the intention of this thread, which isn't exactly new behaviour from WW btw, so you're drawing a heck of a long bow to try and call him a cheerleader.

Noah seems a damn good poster so far, let us hope he's not put off by people who are seemingly intolerant of those who dare to have a different opinion (an opinion which has been well articulated, I might add).

I don't actually see WW getting ****ty at him, I do see WW deciding to disengage from the argument and Noah then going on some rant about WW. The really funny thing to me in this post though is that you're taking issue around "intolerance of people having an opinion" which in reality is what I'd say the behavior towards WW in general is in this thread.

 

[Spark]

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No more tone-police in this thread, kthx.

Definitely 8 points next time.