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***Official**** Sri Lanka in New Zealand 2014/2015
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Howsie
Cricketer Of The Year
Please tell me you're being half serious here? Corey Anderson, quickly becoming the most underrated cricketer on CW.
Blocky
Banned
This comes back to what I said during the follow on - you've put a lot of overs onto the legs of Southee, Wagner and Boult within the space of 2-3 days and you've asked them to recover. We hadn't had any injury issues in a number of matches largely because we weren't asking our bowlers to bowl 50-55 overs within 2.5 days before. It was the wrong decision.
I personally think Southee will play. If he doesn't, I think you'll see Wagner take a bag full anyway.
I personally think Southee will play. If he doesn't, I think you'll see Wagner take a bag full anyway.
Blocky
Banned
Just typical NZ thinking - fortunately it doesn't permeate the coaching circle. It's the same bollocks as you saw the other day with "Well, let's give Bracewell a go because Wagner is only taking wickets at 27 this year..."
NZ will be playing to win, they play every match to win - series are less important these days with the way rankings are calculated and you see less sides going after series victories unless you're Australia/England. It's all about test by test now. Every test win puts you up the ladder, where-as it used to be just series.
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
McCullum isn't going to be heading into a match with a draw on his mind. Completely against his nature.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
The most damaging part was when Southee was bowling himself into the ground for the 5-fer. He looked absolutely wrecked but just kept coming in.
Athlai
Not Terrible
This match actually isn't in terms of rankings, win or draw we move to 5th.
The closer a team is to you in the rankings, the less difference it makes if you win or draw against them. But as Heef says, Baz is always going to go for the win.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Brendon is also the same person who batted first against SA in SA leading to us being bowled out for 45, That said I also agree I am whistling in the wind. The article was quite clear. Doug for Tim is the only possible change.
God speed Doug and don't go out drinking tonight even for a quiet.
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah I commented on that at the time. He deserved a Michelle but he must've gone over his quota
Blocky
Banned
Yup, it's a trap a lot of bowlers get themselves into at club level - chasing a five for when they're spent. The most likely point for injuries happens when you're too tired to execute your action properly and due to tiredness, you're sub consciously taking short cuts. The other problem occurs with the build up into the next game, slight niggles you probably didn't notice during the game start to play up once you bowl again.
Sure, but winning this match moves us closer to fourth than drawing it does. I'd not be surprised if BMac went for a sporting declaration even in this position. .
Maximas
Cricketer Of The Year
It's why that second innings hundred from Dimuth and the general fightback from Sri Lanka was valuable, could go a long way to us winning here if we play well.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
If BMac risks a series win against a team two spots higher in the rankings by making a sporting declaration then I will not be best pleased. He is not that cavalier. Thankfully.
Blocky
Banned
He'd back his side to win, I could see him setting say 350 from 75 overs even in this position.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Super marginal. The ICC Test rankings are pretty stupid.
Effectively our current trajectory is...
win/draw go to 5th
win the series vs. England go to 3rd
draw series vs. Sri Lanka stay levelish
win vs. Australia go to 2nd/1st
Blocky
Banned
Right, 2nd/1st. Go look at the calculations if we win the series here, win the series vs England, win the series vs Sri Lanka.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Where? The ICC site only gives us till the end of the Sri Lanka tour on the predictor?
Blocky
Banned
Every win, loss, draw effects the amount of points you as a side receive, even if it doesn't change the position of your ranking - ergo, the more points you receive, the better and more likely you are to advance up the ladder. Winning every match from now until we play Australia would probably have us in first or second place. Winning every series from now until we play Australia probably won't.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Are you pulling this out of your arse?
The ICC Test rankings system is also weighted by where your opposition sits in comparison to your points value. If we won every single match till we faced Australia, we would still be 3rd, because the value of Sri Lanka, England and Sri Lanka would not be high enough to have us overtake South Africa or Australia.
For example West Indies will very likely lose this series 2-0. But since they drew a match, they will actually gain points in the ICC rankings because of how much higher South Africa is in the rankings.
Right now Australia and South Africa are significantly ahead of the next 5 Test teams in the rankings. Only victories against them will see any movement to higher in the ranks than 3rd.
Blocky
Banned
Did you read what I wrote? Let's try to shorten it for you to lessen the need of an attention span.
Every match has points on it, regardless of series results. Therefore, winning more matches = more points = higher ranking. Winning series makes NO difference to the points that are given out, except to say that you got points for the match you won and the match you drawed. You don't get any additional points for winning the series, you get points per test.
Every match has points on it, regardless of series results. Therefore, winning more matches = more points = higher ranking. Winning series makes NO difference to the points that are given out, except to say that you got points for the match you won and the match you drawed. You don't get any additional points for winning the series, you get points per test.