I followed most of Gillespie's career. Was such an amazing fast bowler. He could get you via his pace and more in length. You had to play far a lot of the deliveries Gillespie bowled at you. Ashes 2005 and the period around that time ruined his reputation but before that, he was some one who was part of one of the all time great test teams.Jason Gillespie
Yea Gillespie was just unfortunate to bowl at the same time 2 ATGs were in his team.I followed most of Gillespie's career. Was such an amazing fast bowler. He could get you via his pace and more in length. You had to play far a lot of the deliveries Gillespie bowled at you. Ashes 2005 and the period around that time ruined his reputation but before that, he was some one who was part of one of the all time great test teams.
Between 1997 and 2004, Gillespie took 238 test wickets at 24.6. How great a test team would Australia have really been had it not been for Gillespie?
McGrath took 376 wickets in the period at 20.5 which just puts into perspective how great McGrath was. Warne took 340 at 26.5. It appalls me how Gillespie comes as an almost after thought now. Gillespie, in his own right, is among the great fast bowlers.
I actually think he's overrated.. not in ODIs, but in Tests. He basically had one great year in 1997 but that's about it. In ODIs his record definitely doesn't tell the whole story.actually aravinda de silva as well
About Barrington, why exactly isn't he rated among the top tier batsmen? imo he should be among the 3 Hs for Eng (Hammond, Hutton, Hobbs), his reputation seems to be that of a grafter.. but his strike rate was just a tad below Dravid's (and Dravid batted during a time when run rates were much higher) and he averaged ~59 during a time only Sobers could compare in that department.Ken Barrington
I agree with all these except Mahela.. overrated ODI player and slightly overrated Test player.Usually the overrated players play for the influential sides (England, India, Aussie) and the underrated ones play for the less influential sides (SA, SL, NZ).
I'd nominate:
Kumar Sangakkara
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Mahela Jayawardene
Jacques Kallis
Shaun Pollock
As I understand it - and I don't know the stats breakdown - he was very good at cashing in on flat decks and against weaker sides. When he played stronger teams he was still a very fine player but not in the top class, like averaging 40+ rather than nearly 60.About Barrington, why exactly isn't he rated among the top tier batsmen? imo he should be among the 3 Hs for Eng (Hammond, Hutton, Hobbs), his reputation seems to be that of a grafter.. but his strike rate was just a tad below Dravid's (and Dravid batted during a time when run rates were much higher) and he averaged ~59 during a time only Sobers could compare in that department.
YepUsually the overrated players play for the influential sides (England, India, Aussie) and the underrated ones play for the less influential sides (SA, SL, NZ).
I'd nominate:
Kumar Sangakkara
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Mahela Jayawardene
Jacques Kallis
Shaun Pollock
Not sure that's true:As I understand it - and I don't know the stats breakdown - he was very good at cashing in on flat decks and against weaker sides. When he played stronger teams he was still a very fine player but not in the top class, like averaging 40+ rather than nearly 60.