Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
So Taylor gets 90 and 68 at No.3 and now he's batting at 5? England logic...
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***Official*** England in Sri Lanka 2014
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Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
I knew Mahela was going to have a trundle! Very fitting
Cabinet96
Hall of Fame Member
Like it makes a difference.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Well we're only dealing in hypotheticals, but I'm more concerned about what this would do to Taylor as opposed to maximising England's chances of winning. It just seems like a lack of faith that's all.
ImpatientLime
International Regular
in order to accommodate an out of position hales.
it's almost like england don't take limited overs cricket seriously.
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
I think they were just having a last look at different players before they have to select their world cup squad. The whole series has been a little like that. Stuff like Tredwell not playing some games to look at Jordan/Gurney/ Stokes whatever was kinda of needed from a WC perspective but gave England less chance of winning the games.
Although I found it a little strange that they played Root today if he was carrying a little bit of an injury. Root is guaranteed a WC spot and they would have been better play Ravi or even Stokes today rather than risk worsening Root's injury.
YorksLanka
International Debutant
IMO England don't take odi cricket seriously, in general-until the World Cup comes around. The focus appears to be only on the Ashes so can anyone expect to just turn up and succeed ?- this isn't a pop at England btw ,just my thoughts, exactly as we don't prioritise test cricket over Odis.
Really pleased with the SL performance this series after we got smashed by India in the last one..lots of positives for us and we are seeming to click as a team at just about the right time before the WC.
Niall
International Coach
Its a fair enough assertion, but England did move The Ashes around for the World Cup and in Summer 2012, they dropped a possible fourth test to squeeze in a ODI series against the Australians, England were actually pretty good in the format at that stage.
YorksLanka
International Debutant
Yes fair enough , you're right mate on those occasions..I suppose to be fair Englands weakness is against spin( like ours is saints the seaming ball) so not the ideal preparation series..in terms of positives, Root has been good, as has Taylor and Ali has bowled well as has Jordan so there are things to be pleased about!Its a fair enough assertion, but England did move The Ashes around for the World Cup and in Summer 2012, they dropped a possible fourth test to squeeze in a ODI series against the Australians, England were actually pretty good in the format at that stage.
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
But they have. The supporters may not be that bothered in general but the team and the coaches have put everything into the preparation this time. Definitely in the past, just not this time.
People think because we rest Broad or Anderson that they don't care but the fact is that those two play more cricket than any other international fast bowlers and need a rest at some point.
Unfortunately this time around their most experienced and/or best players have run out of steam/ form/ have retired in the last 12 months. Cook, Morgan, Trott, Finn, Swann, KP have all lost form, being dropped or injured. There is only so much the newish players like Root, Buttler and whoever should be expected to do. It falls on the more experienced players and they simply aren't good enough at this time.
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
Cook 1. One stubborn ..... Is in woeful form. Incapable of scoring on the front foot at this point
Ali 6. One hundred (where he was dropped 3 times, played on and the bails didn't come off, and had other luck) but needs to just rein it in a little at the start of the innings. Bowling was somewhat inconsistent until the last game. Fielding improving.
Taylor 7. Played two real good knocks where he calmed the situation not seen since Trott was in the lineup. Not entirely convincing against pace.
Root 8. Most consistent bat but lacks power to really dominate towards the end of the innings. Bowling fairly tidy when he wasn't bowling wides.
Morgan 3. Higher rating than Cook even though lower average because he had one knock that actually mattered.
Buttler 6. Average. I kinda hoped for a little more from him by this point. Keeping inconsistent but not bad.
Bopara 4. Couple of decent knocks but any chance of doing it when it really matters?
Woakes 7. Reasonable figures that slightly flatter him. Bowled ok, batted ok.
Jordan 7. Much better than in England last summer but still liable to go to pieces. Batting was a letdown.
Finn 4. Didn't bowl badly, just offers little of the threat that he used to.
Tredwell 5. Economical but England need wickets from their spinners in Asia.
Gurney 2. Offers nothing really
Stokes 1. Needs consistency. Should be left to test cricket in the medium term.
Hales 3. Gormless but batting with Cook must be tough at the moment
Bell 5. Looked ok in 2 games then dropped. Not a good ODI bat but better than Cook (and Ali and Hales) right now.
Ali 6. One hundred (where he was dropped 3 times, played on and the bails didn't come off, and had other luck) but needs to just rein it in a little at the start of the innings. Bowling was somewhat inconsistent until the last game. Fielding improving.
Taylor 7. Played two real good knocks where he calmed the situation not seen since Trott was in the lineup. Not entirely convincing against pace.
Root 8. Most consistent bat but lacks power to really dominate towards the end of the innings. Bowling fairly tidy when he wasn't bowling wides.
Morgan 3. Higher rating than Cook even though lower average because he had one knock that actually mattered.
Buttler 6. Average. I kinda hoped for a little more from him by this point. Keeping inconsistent but not bad.
Bopara 4. Couple of decent knocks but any chance of doing it when it really matters?
Woakes 7. Reasonable figures that slightly flatter him. Bowled ok, batted ok.
Jordan 7. Much better than in England last summer but still liable to go to pieces. Batting was a letdown.
Finn 4. Didn't bowl badly, just offers little of the threat that he used to.
Tredwell 5. Economical but England need wickets from their spinners in Asia.
Gurney 2. Offers nothing really
Stokes 1. Needs consistency. Should be left to test cricket in the medium term.
Hales 3. Gormless but batting with Cook must be tough at the moment
Bell 5. Looked ok in 2 games then dropped. Not a good ODI bat but better than Cook (and Ali and Hales) right now.
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theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
Woakes (and Jordan) probably should be 6 rather than 7 but didn't want Cabinet to get annnoyed at me.
grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Moeen, woefully undermarked, as his is wont.
Nah, genuinely don't think he does need to reign it in, we've been wanting a guy to smash it at the start on good pitches, he'll need luck, but he's gone on a couple of times. High strike-rate is something we desperately need at the top of the order. He may have had a few slices of luck, but one of his more promising innings was ended by Hales, not him. He's a better bet than Hales, Cook and Bell. ATM.
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social
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yep
A new captain might bring a different/better attitude but the simple fact is that England doesn't look to have the talent of some other teams
It reminds me of some of the dark times with the Oz team where we hoped they'd do ok but deep down (well, not so deep), we knew they were ****