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*Official* Pakistan v Australia in UAE 2014

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
So what's the target for Pakistan? Assuming they're able to declare and given the state of the pitch, what would they be looking at? 600?
I crave the day a side just bats for 3 days, with hell to the result. If Pakistan can score 2000, I implore them to do so. They're 1-0 up, as our glorious leader would say: 'they've earned the right'.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Bull****.

Batsmen don't get a ****ing free go at scoring runs for **** sake. A captain is entitled to put a fielder wherever the **** he wants. If a fielder there is distracting to the batsman then I'd suggest he concentrates on the ball a bit more.
Vine link Right behind the bowler's arm.

The rule says that you cannot have more than two fielders on the onside behind the popping crease other than the wicket keeper, the fielders cannot have any significant movements, and they cannot cause distraction to the batsman deliberately.

Law 42.4 does state:

Deliberate attempt to distract striker

It is unfair for any fielder deliberately to attempt to distract the striker while he is preparing to
receive or receiving a delivery.


In my many years of watching cricket, I have not seen a field placement like this. It clearly is in the batsman's vision and would be distracting to the batsmen. Why have the sight screen at all. I won't be convinced this is in the spirit of the game.
 
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Spikey

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Surely by that criteria - " It clearly is in the batsman's vision and would be distracting to the batsmen." - a whole range of positions are against the spirit of the game then
 

flint

Cricket Spectator
I'm led to believe they didn't complain.

I wasn't aware a batsman could object to the fielding position of the 12th man? Sounds like a fair rule, however.

I would say the batsman definitely would have had the right to ask for the fielder to move, just as Dean Jones had the right to ask Curtley to take his wristbands off (as idiotic as it was).

It's possibly a storm in a tea cup but isn't that why we love Test cricket? Every little thing matters, unlike in T20 where nothing matters except lifting your head and giving it full arse.
I just remember a match in the seventies where a twelth man was removed from a specialised catching position at the insistence of the opposing captain. May have been a spirit of the game thing.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
@Spikey: Behind the bowler's arm is a key position really. The batsman can lose the ball if does not see it off the bowler's hand. As Border said, if the fielder was standing on the other side, it wouldn't be an issue. The Sightscreen is there for this very reason - to make it possible for the batsman to spot the ball with ease.
 

Blocky

Banned
I'm sure you can sppreciate the difference between a kids cricket game and one involving adults who bowl at 140km/ph.
Not to mention the pressure of being a professional, and the need to perform... etcetera... The guy hasn't played any cricket with a sight screen, that's all I can think.

The batsmen did not complain to the umpire but did make note to their coach who raised a question with the match referee, reporters also interviewed the batsman post stumps and both mentioned that they found it distracting. Again, it's not the English or Australians - guarantee you had Clarke been batting and someone did this, he'd have been remonstrating with the Umpire immediately.
 

Blocky

Banned
What next? Seeking logo/sponsorship on your test kit that is the same color red as the ball for the bowler and fielders behind the arm to wear?
 

dermo

International Vice-Captain
Not to mention the pressure of being a professional, and the need to perform... etcetera... The guy hasn't played any cricket with a sight screen, that's all I can think.

The batsmen did not complain to the umpire but did make note to their coach who raised a question with the match referee, reporters also interviewed the batsman post stumps and both mentioned that they found it distracting. Again, it's not the English or Australians - guarantee you had Clarke been batting and someone did this, he'd have been remonstrating with the Umpire immediately.
ffs there was remonstrations with the umpire the first time it happened and he told him to get on with it
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Not to mention the pressure of being a professional, and the need to perform... etcetera... The guy hasn't played any cricket with a sight screen, that's all I can think.

The batsmen did not complain to the umpire but did make note to their coach who raised a question with the match referee, reporters also interviewed the batsman post stumps and both mentioned that they found it distracting. Again, it's not the English or Australians - guarantee you had Clarke been batting and someone did this, he'd have been remonstrating with the Umpire immediately.
You're right, I never played on a ground with a sight screen
 

Blocky

Banned
You're right, I never played on a ground with a sight screen
So put it this way..

Playing with a sight screen and then going back to grounds that do not have sight screens or have traffic/moving cars/people walking behind the bowlers arm is amazingly distracting and takes you completely out of your routine.

When you combine that with a bowler capable of going above 130kmh ( i.e higher than the grade of most club cricketers ) and you need to be able to see the ball immediately out of the hand to have any chance, then you start to have major issues. Putting a player with the contrast of his baggy green, his skin color and his whites, while moving around as the bowler runs in to deliver would be hugely distracting to me.
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
So put it this way..

Playing with a sight screen and then going back to grounds that do not have sight screens or have traffic/moving cars/people walking behind the bowlers arm is amazingly distracting and takes you completely out of your routine.

When you combine that with a bowler capable of going above 130kmh ( i.e higher than the grade of most club cricketers ) and you need to be able to see the ball immediately out of the hand to have any chance, then you start to have major issues. Putting a player with the contrast of his baggy green, his skin color and his whites, while moving around as the bowler runs in to deliver would be hugely distracting to me.
I was being sarcastic

Facing Hartley Alleyne at the Oval with his hand coming out of the Member's Bar was off-putting

Facing Geoff Lawson at the SCG with the pitch black groundman's race as a background was mildly disconcerting

Unless the Australian fielder was wearing a fluro green jumpsuit, doing star jumps whilst blowing a vuvuzela, the only distraction would be via the batsman wondering what he was doing in such a dumb-arse position
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
ffs there was remonstrations with the umpire the first time it happened and he told him to get on with it
Really? Interesting if so.

Look we could talk about how Glenn Maxwell isn't a #3's asshole, but everyone knows that. Better to talk about this stuff with no clear distinction on what is right and wrong. That's what makes CW great.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Clarke used the position before in an ODI a few years ago IIRC, when Lasith Malinga was swatting literally everything bowled at him straight back down the line of the pitch for 4, with long on and long off unable to cut it off.

Whether you believe the position was in the spirit of the laws or not, I think we can pretty safely say that Clarke employed it as a legitimate fielding position, not a cynical "hey if we put a bloke dead straight it might distract the batsman and get him out that way".
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Australia cheating again. This is worse than mintgate. Clarke should get a twelve month ban.
 

anil1405

International Captain
As it stands...Younis khan is only the 4th player in history of test cricket to average 50+ in all four innings...this could change by the time he retires though.
 

ohnoitsyou

International Regular
Hurry up and give Warner an over Clarke. Doesn't Rogers bowl the odd bit of medium pace, or is that just on Don Bradman?
 

dermo

International Vice-Captain
hey bois how bout instead of talking about clarkes field placings we talk about why Starc is only getting the second new ball now
 

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