Ajmal Action Reported

[GIMH]

Sledger throwing an apology out and it makes me wanna chuck my guts up

 

[Cabinet96]

I love how people assume that someone is chucking because they're a disgusting horrible person who tries to con the ICC and match officials to gain an advantage.

 

[GIMH]

I love how people assume that someone is chucking because they're a disgusting horrible person who tries to con the ICC and match officials to gain an advantage.

Do you love it or is there a degree of sarcasm in your post?

 

[Cabinet96]

fixed to reflect the overall mood whenever the same fate befalls you

 

[sledger]

I love how people assume that someone is chucking because they're a disgusting horrible person who tries to con the ICC and match officials to gain an advantage.

I always knew he was up to something, he just had that look about him.

 

[Pothas]

Don't think anyone is assuming that anyway. People are enjoying it because they have been told for ages that they are just bitter, that it is an optical illusion blah blah blah.

He was just throwing the ball. That is not in the rules. Therefore it is cheating

Don't blame Ajmal for it at all.

 

[Pothas]

Although if Hampshire somehow ending up coming 3rd and Worcestershire get promoted I will have something very much against him.

 

[GIMH]

Don't think anyone is assuming that anyway. People are enjoying it because Migara exists

Awta

 

[sledger]

He was just throwing the ball. That is not in the rules. Therefore it is cheating

Excellently put. Just soaking up the expedience of the whole thing right now.

 

[KungFu_Kallis]

Hmmm... Ajmal Pakistani's leading bowler... previously tested and cleared and bowls in Test cricket for over 5 years... cited and banned just after India take over world cricket.... Coincidence?

Whereas... Murali... He of the ever clean action... Might just have had some good friends or allies at the top.... Chucking law promptly changed to suit. Hmmm.

 

[Cabinet96]

Don't think anyone is assuming that anyway. People are enjoying it because they have been told for ages that they are just bitter, that it is an optical illusion blah blah blah.

He was just throwing the ball. That is not in the rules. Therefore it is cheating

Don't blame Ajmal for it at all.

But terms like 'filthy chucker' and 'dirty cheat' are thrown around liberally, which implies people think there are sinister motives. The most likely scenario IMO, is that because there's very little policing of actions at youth levels, particularly you suspect in countries such as Pakistan, players develop dodgy actions that after years and years become hard to change. Either that or deteriorating due to fatigue etc.

 

[Maximas]

My apologies for taking it the wrong way. I do not recall having any previous dealings with you, and so did not detect the warm sentiments you were attempting to convey. I hope you do not feel cheated by this.

Not at all fine sir, will use the appropriate smilies in future to avoid confusion

 

[sledger]

But terms like 'filthy chucker' and 'dirty cheat' are thrown around liberally, which implies people think there are sinister motives. The most likely scenario IMO, is that because there's very little policing of actions at youth levels, particularly you suspect in countries such as Pakistan, players develop dodgy actions that after years and years become hard to change. Either that or deteriorating due to fatigue etc.

Hmm yes, I suspect this is probably the case tbh.

 

[sledger]

Hmmm... Ajmal Pakistani's leading bowler... previously tested and cleared and bowls in Test cricket for over 5 years... cited and banned just after India take over world cricket.... Coincidence?

Whereas... Murali... He of the ever clean action... Might just have had some good friends or allies at the top.... Chucking law promptly changed to suit. Hmmm.

My god. I think you might be onto something here.

 

[sledger]

But terms like 'filthy chucker' and 'dirty cheat' are thrown around liberally, which implies people think there are sinister motives.

No smoke without fire imo.

 

[harsh.ag]

He was just throwing the ball. That is not in the rules. Therefore it is cheating

Don't blame Ajmal for it at all.

At the great risk of being horribly pedantic, an element of cheating would be intent. Ajmal was not cheating. Like being in possession of stolen goods is not the same thing as being a thief

 

[Cabinet96]

Hmm yes, I suspect this is probably the case tbh.

Having played representative cricket at youth levels I've played with and against multiple people with horrible actions. It sucks for them because they'll be hung out to dry if they ever make it to the higher levels, but there's just nothing you can do.

 

[sledger]

At the great risk of being horribly pedantic, an element of cheating would be intent. Ajmal was not cheating. Like being in possession of stolen goods is not the same thing as being a thief

Would it? According to whom?

 

[sledger]

Having played representative cricket at youth levels I've played with and against multiple people with horrible actions. It sucks for them because they'll be hung out to dry if they ever make it to the higher levels, but there's just nothing you can do.

Not cheat, imo.

 

[watson]

At the great risk of being horribly pedantic, an element of cheating would be intent. Ajmal was not cheating. Like being in possession of stolen goods is not the same thing as being a thief

Can a bowler always 'know' that they are chucking, or a confirmed chucker successfully remodel their action?

The answers to those questions are no, then yes, if the career of Tony Lock is anything to go by;

......Lock continued to take wickets in heaps at home. The hapless Kiwi batsmen of 1958 were no match for his guile and occasional speed as he devastated them to capture 34 in the series at just 7.47 apiece, with eleven scalps at Leeds.

Yet, success abroad eluded him. In the Ashes series of 1958-59, England sent what was hyped as their strongest ever team. Peter May’s men were trounced 4-0 and Lock finished with just five wickets from four Tests. His bowling, suited to the helpful English wickets, was toothless on the hard tracks of Australia where finger spinners have traditionally struggled.

At the other side of the Tasman Sea, however, Lock found the soft surface of Christchurch very much to his liking. Five for 31 and six for 53 ensured the third 11-wicket haul of his career, and scripted his first success story away from England. Yet, this was the very tour in which Lock was shocked when shown a film of his own bowling. The action was so obviously illegitimate that he exclaimed, “Had I known I was throwing I wouldn’t have bowled that way.”

The second remodelling

So, at the age of 30, Lock went back to the drawing board and began to sketch his future with a legitimate action. His bowling became almost orthodox, classical. The loop had returned, and guile was added from his treasure troves of experience.


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