Ajmal Action Reported

[wellAlbidarned]

it applies only to Sarwan. All others extend their elbows and some hyperextend.

One murky quote saying McGrath and Pollock's actions were found to extend up to 13 degrees does not equate to blatant chucking being possible without the naked eye getting suspicious.

 

[uvelocity]

it didnt even say that much

 

[marc71178]

Not least because 13 is less than 15.

 

[Maximas]

cbf digging it up properly but if iirc it said something to the effect that people with classical actions such as Pollock and McGrath were found to be extending up to 12 degrees, no details or individual figures though

 

[smash84]

Wasn't the recommendation to set the mark at 15 degree because if they wanted to set it at 10 then even people like McG and Pollock were going over the 10 degree limit?

 

[Migara]

One murky quote saying McGrath and Pollock's actions were found to extend up to 13 degrees does not equate to blatant chucking being possible without the naked eye getting suspicious.

well on the subject of blatant chucking you are correct. I am concerned about marginal cases say about 17-20.

 

[GIMH]

Odejayo baby Odejayo ooooooh

 

[Prince EWS]

well on the subject of blatant chucking you are correct. I am concerned about marginal cases say about 17-20.

Do you think it's appropriate use of ICC money to test every single player who bowls in international cricket, even if they bowl very sparingly and have extremely clean-looking actions? Keep in mind that the testing process is expensive and we still have many boards struggling to pay their players a competitive wage (or have professional contracts at all in some cases) or set up HawkEye for UDRS in internationals.

I think the idea of testing everyone is fine in theory; I just think cricket has much bigger problems more worthy of ICC investment than proving beyond all doubt that, for example, Scottish second choice wicket keeper Marc Petrie isn't going to straighten his arm more than 15 degrees in the extremely unlikely event that he has a trundle in an international.

I think testing more bowlers who look dubious, as has been happening of late, is a good idea, but testing bowlers with actions that look fine just seems PC waste of money to me.

 

[hendrix]

What Migara is concerned about is the effort ball.

On the doosra - it's said to be impossible to bowl without some degree of straightening. I would guess that the outswinger is also impossible to bowl without some degree too.

You could have a case where Steyn's big hooping reversing delivery involves more straightening than his stock ball. So I do think Migara is correct to point out where there should be consistency.

 

[DriveClub]

Migara is a poor man's burgey, both of them are intolerable ****s, coming from a **** like me that's a real low.

 

[Maximas]

Do you think it's appropriate use of ICC money to test every single player who bowls in international cricket, even if they bowl very sparingly and have extremely clean-looking actions? Keep in mind that the testing process is expensive and we still have many boards struggling to pay their players a competitive wage (or have professional contracts at all in some cases) or set up HawkEye for UDRS in internationals.

I think the idea of testing everyone is fine in theory; I just think cricket has much bigger problems more worthy of ICC investment than proving beyond all doubt that, for example, Scottish second choice wicket keeper Marc Petrie isn't going to straighten his arm more than 15 degrees in the extremely unlikely event that he has a trundle in an international.

I think testing more bowlers who look dubious, as has been happening of late, is a good idea, but testing bowlers with actions that look fine just seems PC waste of money to me.

So don't test every bowler, test a few (maybe 10 or so), get Steyn to bowl outswingers and others to bowl bouncers or whatever like they do in matches and see what you get, if the results confirm the suspicions of Migara then you test a few more and if the problem remains look at adjusting the rule again or taking some other course of action.

 

[Burgey]

Not least because 13 is less than 15.

That's what you say. Unproven.

 

[Burgey]

Migara is a poor man's burgey, both of them are intolerable ****s, coming from a **** like me that's a real low.

You can't be that much of a ****, I had no idea you existed until I read this post.

 

[YorksLanka]

Pakistan Cricket News: Saeed Ajmal banned from bowling | ESPN Cricinfo

Another one bites the dust...

 

[Maximas]

Stuart Broad's feeling pretty smug about all this I bet

 

[OverratedSanity]

Always looked bad to me. Good riddance and I hope more tests follow.

 

[ankitj]

This is tremendous blow. I confess being sympathetic to spin bowlers who bring more variety and skill into the game, even if the actions looked dodgy. So I feel bad for Ajmal.

 

[OverratedSanity]

This is tremendous blow. I confess being sympathetic to spin bowlers who bring more variety and skill into the game, even if the actions looked dodgy. So I feel bad for Ajmal.

Why do you feel bad for him now that it's proven he's a chucker? Feel bad for all those batsmen he got out.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Well that is that then. Ends all the arguments.

 

[ankitj]

Why do you feel bad for him now that it's proven he's a chucker? Feel bad for all those batsmen he got out.

His high flying career got ruined. And being found a chucker is different from being found a fixer. It's not exactly cheating and disqualification is a matter of conventions. Won't keep arguing this point though, it's just my view that may not have many takers.