**Official** Ishant Sharma Disparagement Thread

[Teja.]

Taste it. I said before the series that Ishant would be India's best bowler on display.

Bhuvi has been India's best seamer in the series so far and it's not really close. Ishant is still going at 12 whole runs more per wicket for the 10 wickets he took in this series and Bhuvi's 1st innings performance here as the lone star was in less helpful conditions and as important. Even if Ishant's 7-fer was slightly superior, Bhuvi has been far better overall anyway.

Bhuvi has kept it ridiculously tight when he was not taking wickets unlike Sharma who's been leaking at 4 per over on a consistent basis when he's not looking threatening. Ishant has 10 wickets @ 28.5 and Bhuvi has 11 at 16.8. **** the stats actually, if you've watched all three innings of bowling and think Ishant was better overall, I don't know what to say.

 

[Blocky]

And when Bhuvi marries that up with bowling his side to victory on the final day, I'll give him his due. At the moment, I judge bowlers on their ability to win games in the final innings. It's why I've always rated Wagner.

 

[Spark]

1st innings > 2nd innings. Always.

 

[Cabinet96]

Bhuvi deserved to be the match winner. Not his fault he hadn't read the script that England had to hit everything half way down straight down fielders throats.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Ishant will never get easier wickets than he got today. Sort of cricket you expect from a poor club side. Not taking anything away from him though, he did his job and we fell for it.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Ishant will never get easier wickets than he got today. Sort of cricket you expect from a poor club side. Not taking anything away from him though, he did his job and we fell for it.

Yeah but Ishant's spell yesterday where he got Cook and Bell was massive too. Even today, before that farce at the end, Ishant was pretty much the only bowler causing problems and creating chances. It really was an excellent effort... Helped by utterly inept batting yeah, but he deserved it imo

 

[fredfertang]

Sharma clearly reads CW and all of us who have had a pop at him in the past are responsibility or this uncharacteristic outburst, but he won't be able to keep it up, fnarrr fnarrr

 

[shankar]

Strange match....Began with a weird session of inexplicable short pitched bowling and ended with an equally mindboggling session against the short stuff.

 

[Uppercut]

And when Bhuvi marries that up with bowling his side to victory on the final day, I'll give him his due. At the moment, I judge bowlers on their ability to win games in the final innings. It's why I've always rated Wagner.

Haha I love the "at the moment". It's like you're already mounting the goalposts onto wheels just in case his next wickets come in the first innings.

 

[smash84]

Sharma clearly reads CW and all of us who have had a pop at him in the past are responsibility or this uncharacteristic outburst, but he won't be able to keep it up, fnarrr fnarrr

I have had too many pops at him in the recent past. Maybe he just wanted to prove me wrong for once

 

[Flem274*]

Blocky, only you could say Ishant bowled well to get that 7fer with a straight face.

 

[Blocky]

Blocky, only you could say Ishant bowled well to get that 7fer with a straight face.

See, this is why I just don't rate you as a poster, because you're coming at me like I'm a clown for suggesting Ishant bowled well enough to turn the match around. You make it seem like all seven wickets he got were through batsman error which is just blatantly wrong and reminds me of our debates on the Wagner subject.

He bowled Bell with an absolute peach, a couple of overs later he bowled another peach that straightened off the seam to take Cook's edge, then came back and bowled some sharp short stuff at Root and Ali before lunch, he softened Root up with some beautiful bouncers and got Ali with a beauty, right at the throat and Ali had no clue. Prior, Root and Stokeits all gifted him wickets but you can't fault Sharma, he was bowling to a plan and had fielders set for those shots. That England stupidly fell to that plan shows they're meak, yes - but also shows that Ishant had the ability to get the ball higher on the bat than they were expecting it to be. Ishant also bowled much better in the first innings than the scoresheet gives him credit for.

 

[Cabinet96]

At least five of them were serious batsman error tbf.

 

[Flem274*]

See, this is why I just don't rate you as a poster, because you're coming at me like I'm a clown for suggesting Ishant bowled well enough to turn the match around. You make it seem like all seven wickets he got were through batsman error which is just blatantly wrong and reminds me of our debates on the Wagner subject.

bowling well enough to bowl england out yesterday doesn't equate to bowling well per se

and it's ok sweetie i backed persevering with your crush when he was at deaths door against the windies in the summer. run along now.

 

[cnerd123]

I agree with Blocky that he deserved Cook, Bell and Moeen's wickets. Infact just before Moeen's wicket everyone was talking about how Ishant was looking like India's most threatening bowler that session, and that over was sharp and quick.

Similarly it was god awful batting to some mediocre bowling after lunch, but it was mediocre bowling to a plan. Not pure dumb luck. Give him and Dhoni some credit.

Ishant has bowled better spells than this and come back wicketless. This may be one of the easiest Test 7-fers anyone's every had. But it doesn't mean he bowled badly and got lucky.

Both Tests so far he has bowled fairly decently. Not India's best bowler, thats Bhuvi, be definitely India's second best.

 

[Blocky]

At least five of them were serious batsman error tbf.

You can claim four were serious batsman error, the Ali dismissal was a great delivery - everything you want in a bouncer, beautiful line, would've hit the batsman right on the throat if he didn't get his arms in-front of it. Ali played it poorly but the ball itself was a beauty, and had also come after he'd worked over Root in the previous few balls.

The other guys, you'd hope for more from your batsman, absolutely - but the plan was set for them and they obviously weren't comfortable getting in behind the line or letting them go through to the keeper, they chose to counter attack and in the case of Stokes and Root, the ball got much bigger on them than they expected it to be.

I don't have any problems with a guy like Ishant getting some wickets like that when he bowled well without reward in the first innings and produced three beautiful cherries to take out three of England's six bats.

 

[hendrix]

yeah agree with Blocky and ***** here.

He bowled well to a plan.

The fact that England were idiotic enough to fall for the plan doesn't change the fact that he executed it perfectly.

 

[honestbharani]

Being India's second best bowler is not much to write home about though, given how bad Shami has been and how Jadeja has been nullified by the English batters and how Binny has become a persona-non-grata with Dhoni..

 

[the big bambino]

Hard to talk down a bowler's success by attributing it to luck or batsmen's follies. Especially when bowlers get little slack for bad luck when they fail to take wickets. Besides Sharma showed an ability to take his wickets with different lengths which is impressive versatility. India now have Bhuvi and Sharma capable of taking wickets and with Shami are looking a threatening attack now.

 

[Stapel]

Howmany bowlers have taken more wickets than IS has at his current age? Can't be too many! His average is rather crappy, but so was Anderson's for a long time. And Sharma has the excuse of bowling a majority of his deliveries in India.