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Which rookie would you most want the Bulls to draft if this Noah scenario was to eventuate? I'm still unsure who's going to be drafted number 1.
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duffer
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nightprowler10
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What a ****ing game so far. Wow.
Yeah no clue. If there's no Melo then I would think we'd draft based highest ceiling and not who fits the current system better, which may well be Wiggins. FO can't afford to think about who would fit better next to Rose anymore, as sad as the thought is.
nightprowler10
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More than game 6 of 2011 finals? Come on.
nightprowler10
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Riggins
International Captain
this has the added bonus of patty ****ing mills being the one making it rain.
nightprowler10
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This makes it so much more impressive that Dallas took this team to 7.As a Mavs fan, the 2011 Finals was the greatest feeling of all time. But watching this has been an absolute joy as well.
nightprowler10
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Jeez..
duffer
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It's on Spo. How many plays did he run for Bosh? Why did he expect a clearly ageing Wade to be just as effective at Iso's? If they think Melo givingo them 25 points on 45% is going t help I'll piss myself.
Ikki
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Disagree? When it comes to the playoffs he basically has to do it all. Facilitate, score, and guard from 1-5 at times. It's gotten ridiculous that Wade and Bosh are still called stars.
True, but, I think it's more than that. Look at the playoff and finals averages for those guys. They're...garbage. Leonard got no plays run for him and look what he was still capable to do...basketball IQ man. The bench also went missing this post season. All Miami have are names, if they could hit the reset button 3/4 of the players are gone.
I don't think Melo is going to shoot 45% in the long run with them. He'll get efficient just as Lebron, Wade and Bosh did under Spo. But IMO they need a rebounding presence as much as they need another reliable scorer. I mean, it's getting ridiculous now...4 seasons without an interior defence is negligence.
Exactly, they win game 1 and probably don't give up the lead in game 5 if they have someone even hitting at .450.
Lebron's averages for the finals were: 28/8/4/2 on 57/52/79 ...those are brilliant figures. He was the best player in the series by far but clearly in the worst team but it will all be forgotten because his teammates couldn't help him...like at all.
Having said all that...Spurs deserved it...they were amazing defensively and offensively. I'm not sure you'll see better shooting performances from a team again.
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nightprowler10
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Yeah look, the 'LeBron has no help' rhetoric works out this time around because a) Wade missed 30 games to rest and still sucked in the playoffs and b) as duffer said Spo doesn't know how to use Bosh, but to say he's been carrying them for 2 seasons at least is just disingenuous. LeBron had plenty of help in 2012 and only had to play out of his mind in maybe 2 playoff games in order to win it all. Last year there was a lot of Miami Cavaliers rhetoric from ESPN because we had seen Wade's slump starting and Heat struggling as a result. But the fact is Wade and Bosh, while not getting impressive numbers, demanded a lot of attention and made key plays when it mattered. He didn't have that in Cleveland so it was an unfair comparison and I remember bitching about it here.
We don't need to look at the averages to see that Wade and Bosh were garbage this year, and I'm sure if there was ANY real competition in the East, Miami may not have made it to the finals. But duffer makes a great point that the coach has a lot to do with it. Kawhi ran around and put up great numbers because the system allows it and because the coach gave him the freedom. If Spo is going to park Bosh on the perimeter because he's more likely to make a three than the other two, how is it solely down to Bosh that he doesn't get the numbers you expect of him?
Anyway, I actually really felt bad for LeBron last night and thought he acted very classy after the loss even through the press conference. The only way forward has to be to make Bosh a proper #2 to LeBron, I've always felt that would be the better strategy than having James and Wade taking turns running iso. Pick up a young 2 guard (no idea who's available) and have Wade come off the bench, but yeah, to Ikki's point, they finally finally need to try and fill the front court gap. No idea how they get that accomplished without trading Bosh or something.
We don't need to look at the averages to see that Wade and Bosh were garbage this year, and I'm sure if there was ANY real competition in the East, Miami may not have made it to the finals. But duffer makes a great point that the coach has a lot to do with it. Kawhi ran around and put up great numbers because the system allows it and because the coach gave him the freedom. If Spo is going to park Bosh on the perimeter because he's more likely to make a three than the other two, how is it solely down to Bosh that he doesn't get the numbers you expect of him?
Anyway, I actually really felt bad for LeBron last night and thought he acted very classy after the loss even through the press conference. The only way forward has to be to make Bosh a proper #2 to LeBron, I've always felt that would be the better strategy than having James and Wade taking turns running iso. Pick up a young 2 guard (no idea who's available) and have Wade come off the bench, but yeah, to Ikki's point, they finally finally need to try and fill the front court gap. No idea how they get that accomplished without trading Bosh or something.
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