***Official*** West Indies in New Zealand 2013/14

[Immenso]

I agree with cairns v doull in the 6 v 7 batting order.

 

[hendrix]

"Watling has almost earnt the right to..." oh

yeah I reacted the same way

 

[hendrix]

I agree with cairns v doull in the 6 v 7 batting order.

still like Watling at 7 because Ryder/whoever coming in for Anderson will strengthen the batting without moving anyone around unnecessarily

 

[Prince EWS]

and wtf does wpwb mean ffs?

It's benchmark's nickname for Haddin that means, as far as I can tell, "World's Premier Wicket-Keeper Batsman"

 

[Flem274*]

I can see what Cairns is saying here but without some serious and quick improvement in his batting Anderson is not a top five batsman. Personally I've always thought he would be best trying to emulate balanced allrounders like Botham/Miller/Kapil/Cairns rather than the Kallis/Watson types. His bowling has too much potential to be allowed to go to waste so early in his career as well.

 

[Flem274*]

It's benchmark's nickname for Haddin that means, as far as I can tell, "World's Premier Wicket-Keeper Batsman"

lol. ta.

 

[hendrix]

I can see what Cairns is saying here but without some serious and quick improvement in his batting Anderson is not a top five batsman. Personally I've always thought he would be best trying to emulate balanced allrounders like Botham/Miller/Kapil/Cairns rather than the Kallis/Watson types. His bowling has too much potential to be allowed to go to waste so early in his career as well.

my opinion is that he won't ever be a 3rd seamer but I suppose we've already had this discussion.

It'd be interesting if at one stage we picked both Neesham and Anderson, with Neesh as the 3rd seamer. That would also allow us to pick a spinner consistently.

 

[Flem274*]

my opinion is that he won't ever be a 3rd seamer but I suppose we've already had this discussion.

It'd be interesting if at one stage we picked both Neesham and Anderson, with Neesh as the 3rd seamer. That would also allow us to pick a spinner consistently.

When McCullum's back goes snap I'd expect 5-11 to be

Ryder
Watling
Anderson
Spinner
Three Pacers

 

[Prince EWS]

my opinion is that he won't ever be a 3rd seamer but I suppose we've already had this discussion.

I think he's a fourth seamer and a #7 at the moment. He's above average at both those roles. When Watling exists that's perfectly fine.

 

[hendrix]

e.g. in 2 years

1. Rutherford
2. Raval
3. Williamson
4. Taylor
5. Ryder
6. Anderson (4)
7. Watling
8. Neesham (3)
9. Sodhi (5)
10. Southee (1)
11. Boult (2)

 

[Flem274*]

Anderson bowling at full tilt and not within himself is a cricketer I'd want in my team once given time to develop considering he is a good number seven in tests.

 

[hendrix]

I think he's a fourth seamer and a #7 at the moment. He's above average at both those roles. When Watling exists that's perfectly fine.

I agree that he's a number 7 but I don't agree that that's perfectly fine just because Watling is good. Our bowling doesn't need the extra bowler unless he justifies his place as a batsman or we're playing on the subcontinent.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Got to take that.

 

[Maximas]

ffs, gotta feel for Shilly, getting almost nothing out of the pitch and then a chance goes down

 

[hendrix]

e.g. in 2 years

1. Rutherford
2. Raval
3. Williamson
4. Taylor
5. Ryder
6. Anderson (4)
7. Watling
8. Neesham (3)
9. Sodhi (5)
10. Southee (1)
11. Boult (2)

I actually like this team more and more because what Anderson lacks as a number 6 (which he may have fixed in a couple of years) Neesham makes up for by being a very strong 8. And with Neesham being the better bowler, it strengthens the 3rd seamer position and we have a well rounded 5 bowler attack.

 

[hendrix]

holy crap that's a good shot

 

[Prince EWS]

I agree that he's a number 7 but I don't agree that that's perfectly fine just because Watling is good.

I'd definitely have different thoughts on the matter if New Zealand had a better fourth middle order batsman to pick in his place than Brownlie. I think, for Anderson's bowling to no longer be worth it, his replacement would have to be a better batsman than Watling. For as long as Watling's the fourth best middle order batsman available and Anderson is actually performing to the standards of a good number seven+fourth seamer then I think this is the way I'd go. Especially given New Zealand's fourth bowler is so weak.

 

[hendrix]

I'd definitely have different thoughts on the matter if New Zealand had a better fourth middle order batsman to pick in his place than Brownlie. I think, for Anderson's bowling to no longer be worth it, his replacement would have to be a better batsman than Watling. For as long as Watling's the fourth best middle order batsman available and Anderson is actually performing to the standards of a good number seven+fourth seamer then I think this is the way I'd go. Especially given New Zealand's fourth bowler is so weak.

Ryder.

 

[Prince EWS]

Ryder.

Yeah I've given up trying to look too far ahead on that one. He's not a factor for me until the day I hear he's fit and available for selection.

If Ryder was available then I would drop Anderson. I just think that, while he is in the side and while whoever he's keeping out isn't as good as Watling, if he's performing to the standards of a #7 and a fourth seamer then he's doing a good job for the side.

 

[hendrix]

You know, if one of these commentators was a girl, you'd say that they were flirting with each other.

Gotta do something in the box I suppose.