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***Official*** Australia in India 2013 Short formats
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Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
Name one Indian bowler not named Ishant in this series doing well. Bhuvneshwar Kumar, one saviour of the team, is struggling to take a wicket, and may struggle to save himself for the WI series. Ashwin is bowling flats, and getting punished. Jadeja is not doing anything of note- he's bowling with Z-plus security offered by Dhoni, and batsmen are building partnerships off his bowling, and then attacking the final overs- had it been Ajmal, Ajantha, Swann or Narine, three wickets would be down. Yuvraj, dear me, he's so irrelevant with his weak-link-in-a-weak-attack bowling, poor fielding and misfiring batting, on flat decks. Vinay Kumar is doing only as much as a medium-pacer under six feet can do best. Honestly, Indian bowlers are weak on flat decks, to the point of losing matches. They need it to seam dangerously to be effective, even if the batsmen struggle. Averages are over forty, and so you can imagine either strike rate (for Bhuv and SRJ) or economy (for the rest) being horrible.
Shri
Mr. Glass
He is trying to bowl way too many variations in an over and is losing it. He is not firing it in and getting hit, he is bowling short and wide and getting hammered. If he begins to bowl his stock delivery more and use his variations as a surprise, he will become effective again.
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
Dhoni deserves this loss, for taking Ishant again and again.. I am happy for the loss just to know that Ishant will probably not be near the Indian team again.. But we never know Dhoni, Ishant might still play in the next match..
I have decided not to watch a single India match till Ishant is dropped.. Thought Ill never hate him playing in the side more, but he has given a good reason for it now..
I have decided not to watch a single India match till Ishant is dropped.. Thought Ill never hate him playing in the side more, but he has given a good reason for it now..
Cabinet96
Hall of Fame Member
Haha, it's really overly optimistic to think that Ishant will be gone for a while now. He's the only seam bowler in the country who has been consistently around the sides for the last few years, despite him being terribad in the period. He's going nowhere. They discarded Zaheer instead of him FFS.
Cabinet96
Hall of Fame Member
The list is endless. Mohit, Shami, Praveen, Zaheer, Yadav. None of them were brilliant but they were all better than Ishant.
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
He was also yet to have taken a wicket till today. That is poor for a strike bowler. Compare that with Mitch, Forkers or Macka, who have been chipping away at one of the best ODI batting units. A strike rate of close to 150 is beyond poor. Batsmen who can bowl a bit can do a lot better- maybe that's what Bucky can do. To his credit, he's bowled without protection that part-timers and actors playing superheroes (and yesteryear's superheroes) get from Dhoni, and is also as good a batsman as India's current number seven, without the oodles of chances given.
A premature recall for Masher (Yadav) won't be out of the question. He was dropped because of his high economy rate for ODI-ready bowlers, whose economy rates are skyrocketing to petrol price levels. He can also take wickets and force more wickets. He's also had drastically better 2013 figures than his overall figures, and that India have won seven out of the nine games he got will give a hint- he's not a terrible ODI bowler. He had a great tri-series in the West Indies, before the Zim tour. But he's again taken a break, and come out of it.
EDIT: Agarkar to un-retire? And then we wonder why Kapil Dev played on till 1994. Or why Srinath hung on till 2003.
A premature recall for Masher (Yadav) won't be out of the question. He was dropped because of his high economy rate for ODI-ready bowlers, whose economy rates are skyrocketing to petrol price levels. He can also take wickets and force more wickets. He's also had drastically better 2013 figures than his overall figures, and that India have won seven out of the nine games he got will give a hint- he's not a terrible ODI bowler. He had a great tri-series in the West Indies, before the Zim tour. But he's again taken a break, and come out of it.
EDIT: Agarkar to un-retire? And then we wonder why Kapil Dev played on till 1994. Or why Srinath hung on till 2003.
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Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
Mohit Sharma is only a season old. Too risky a choice, given his success in sticky wickets against a weak Zim batting lineup, coming off a Ranji season played in favourable conditions. This series can smash him out of the team, much like it may have Ishant.
Viscount Tom
International Debutant
Greatest jinx post ever.
Cabinet96
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, like I said, he's not been brilliant. But you spoke about his place coming under scrutiny. When bowlers like Ishant have been consistently picked for far longer, it's ridiculous to say his place in the side should be up for question. He's been your best ODI seamer since he debuted and I'd be very surprised if you could name three better alternatives.
harsh.ag
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
To cut through everything, I am pretty sure that Yuvraj and Ishant need to be dropped if India want to get to their best team in ODIs. Pick Rahane for number 4 and Amit Mishra as the second specialist spinner. He will do a better job. May even teach Ashwin a few things. In the end, it's ODIs, so I really don't care much. Hope Umesh gets back soon.
Esperance
U19 Cricketer
it was deliberate, cant have that **** doing well.
harsh.ag
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Never said he was bad. I think Rahane's better. If you don't, cool.
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
Drop Ashwin too, and put Bucky and Vinay on notice. Mishra's a really good strike bowler, but he'll need the protection usually reserved for Jadeja. We will see Mishra unprotected, but not Jadeja. This bloke JDU is good in ODIs, but may get flattened on flat decks. Iqbal Abdulla would be ideal, but he's not even in the Mumbai scheme of things, and hasn't played after the last season's last Mumbai game.
He's not relevant in the current scheme of things- weak bowling and flat pitches. He hasn't bowled much, his batting is off-colour after one century, and he's committed some bloopers on the field.
OverratedSanity
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No way can we afford to drop Ashwin and Yuvraj imo.
Just get rid of Ishant ffs... If things don't improve at all, we can think of something else. Gotta take the first step. Just rip off that huge rotten stinking putrid rag and we'll see how bad the wound is
Just get rid of Ishant ffs... If things don't improve at all, we can think of something else. Gotta take the first step. Just rip off that huge rotten stinking putrid rag and we'll see how bad the wound is