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Does anyone think Australia's situation is not actually that dire?
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Jono
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He's already a hero thank you very much #bigshow.Australia's next hero?
cameronryan123
Cricket Spectator
Yeah mate thats a perfect way of putting it. Lyon is and always will be a just a solid spinner at best. And by solid, I mean I can go around local comps and see bowlers just as good. I can't go around local comps and see bowlers as good as harris, pattinson, etc. Batting is a huge worry, there's no doubting it. I know some people think I am crazy for saying this but the batters who must be there are warner, watson, hughes, clarke and khawaja. Other two batting spots up for grabs between experienced players in the mould of katich, d hussey, jacques, rogers, etc. Play haddin at 8 and with the pace attack of siddle, bird, and harris. Watson has to be there so he can be our 4th bowler.
Riggins
International Captain
ridiculous.
LongHopCassidy
International Captain
It's a wind-up. Calm your mammaries.
the big bambino
International Captain
Have to agree. Lyon is our best spinner post Warne/McGill. Not much quality but plenty have been tried. Its ridiculing him to say the likes of Warner could do just as good a job.
I wouldn't play 7 batsmen. Its a ploy that never seems to work. The side can get out just as quickly and this time we only have 3 bowlers to share the workload.
I wouldn't play 7 batsmen. Its a ploy that never seems to work. The side can get out just as quickly and this time we only have 3 bowlers to share the workload.
Riggins
International Captain
you see, i don't think it is..!
further proof of the decline in the local sheffield shield comp i guess
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flibbertyjibber
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Ultimate insult.
Adders
Cricketer Of The Year
Especially crazy when one of those 3 bowlers is Harris...........terrible idea cameron. And if you asked Warner or Katitch or any other part time spinner to bowl 20 - 30 overs in an innings you'd quickly realise just how far behind Lyon they actually are.
Australia frustrated at losing young stars Sam Robson and Sam Hain | Andy Bull | Sport | The Guardian
Why would Sam Robson pick England. He could be in the Australian team for Christmas if he goes and scores a few SS runs.
Why would Sam Robson pick England. He could be in the Australian team for Christmas if he goes and scores a few SS runs.
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Hilarious how perception changes. Now what are considered prudent reasons to play in England ("You play more FC cricket in England....stable employment.....opportunity to play long innings") was exactly what people here used to beat blokes over the head with ("16 games is too many; will dull your skills/hunger.......if it's like a job, you produce soft cricketers......so what if you scored a FC triple, soft runs don't count")
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cameronryan123
Cricket Spectator
okay guys quick question - why bother wasting a position on a spinner if none of them are any good? and yeah lyon was playing locally just a couple of years ago at the age of 23.. were picking spinners with only a few fc games, so how is there a difference between a guy with 3 or so fc games to his name and another with none?
NUFAN
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Lyon took 7/94 last Test match. Have you heard that the next Test match ground favours spin? The fourth Test is more likely to favour the seamers so maybe ask the question before it starts instead.
cameronryan123
Cricket Spectator
He averaged 38 with the ball in the series and thats strongly changed by that one innings, without it he would've averaged 70. Not great stats at a spinners paradise. Look how well ashwin and jadeja went compared to him.
cameronryan123
Cricket Spectator
I'm not saying don't pick him for this exact test, but generally I wouldn't play a spinner unless conditions warranted it.
Backlash
School Boy/Girl Captain
It's funny, some people seem to think if they keep saying this that it will somehow magically become true all by itself. They seem to think nothing ever changes. Like Cricket is somehow always guaranteed to always have Australia.