Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
Nah, at least with Jarshall, you could always swap him for his less **** brother when nobody was looking.
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**Official** New Zealand in South Africa
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kykweer.proteas
International Debutant
Its almost inevitable that steyn will get a wicket here if he bowls off side
Watling is worth more.
kingkallis
International Coach
Faf you beauty!
kykweer.proteas
International Debutant
I find it really difficult to believe nz can score 200, I don't think hesson believes it either.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Guptill is the only batsman in that top 6 that makes big scores in limited overs relatively consistently. A couple of others could contribute fifty (McCullum and Watling, though he's looked pretty bad so far). The lower order looks good on paper but in reality I can almost guarantee it will roll over and ask Steyn to tickle its tummy.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
I'm just gonna say it: I don't get the Williamson love.
In the NZ D&G thread he's more or less given a free pass and in most posters' XIs.
Seems to be a deeply flawed batsman and, whilst admittedly NZ aren't overburdened with world class bats, it seems odd to me he's accorded largesse that (say) Flynn, Redmond or Fulton aren't.
In the NZ D&G thread he's more or less given a free pass and in most posters' XIs.
Seems to be a deeply flawed batsman and, whilst admittedly NZ aren't overburdened with world class bats, it seems odd to me he's accorded largesse that (say) Flynn, Redmond or Fulton aren't.
benchmark00
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Why was I under the impression that Smitteh had retired from ODI's? Should be captain if he's playing.
Should retire, tbh.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Partly agree - Williamson's certainly given much more leeway than others by most of us. A few times the failures have mounted up and it's been talked about that he should be left out, however then he scores a century.
Still looks like he should become a good batsman to me. Will probably take a bit more maturity and another few years though.
Still looks like he should become a good batsman to me. Will probably take a bit more maturity and another few years though.
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
Williamson has played innings that Flynn etc. have shown themselves utterly incapable of doing (especially his match saving 100 v SA last year). He's also very young, younger still than Taylor or Ryder were when they debuted. Finally, he's a specialist number 3 bat, with a relatively good technique, that makes piles and piles of runs in domestic cricket. We don't really have any more of those.
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BoyBrumby
Englishman
Guess it's part of the grooming process for ABCDeV to take over the test captaincy when the tubby lardster finally succumbs to that fatal diarrhea blow-back.
did McCullum edge that?
Mike5181
International Captain
Whilst guys like Nicol are in the team, Williamson can have as many **** innings as he wants. We just can't afford to drop him. He probably averages 15 more than Redmond in NZ first-class, 25 more in OD domestic stuff, and is eleven years younger. So it's understandable he gets more chances to find his feet at international level. Williamson's shown glimpses of his talent. He has five international centuries, and has played just a few more games than Flynn who has none. Fulton only has one, and has played even more games.