SJS
Hall of Fame Member
I think Amla is a great choice.
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Greatest ODI batsman of all time
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SJS
Hall of Fame Member
I do not think I said anything about who between Dhoni or Gilchrist is the better batsman although I do have an opinion on that :-))
I was just pointing out the problem/ futility of comparing the two based on their stats since the bat at two different ends of an odi innings and this, in the odi format, makes a huge difference to how one bats and the stats.
We can't extrapolate their respective stas to assume the figures if Dhoni was an opener or Gilchrist always batted at number 6 and 7.
That's what my point was as far as Dhoni and Gilchrist are concerned.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
Lightning quick Murali? I don't think so Smali.
Also, pretty good fielder is such a wide varying description of someone/something. My sushi for lunch today was pretty good, but nothing to write home about. If I had to give Murali a rating as a fielder he would be slightly below average, which isn't great in an all time XI. I don't want to harp on just Murali though, the team selected isn't a good fielding unit overall.
Satyanash89
Banned
Strange i clearly remember the young Murali being an absolutely gun ground fielder, quick across the turf with a safe pair of hands and an accurate throwing arm. He was one of the best fielders in the SL team along with Mahanama, Chandana etc
smash84
The Tiger King
NUFAN I think you are seriously under rating Murali's fielding.
I am not sure how much of his career you followed but I followed most of it and agree with satyanash that he was up there with Chandana and Mahanama as a ground fielder (not as good a catcher) and had a very good and accurate throw. And it wasn't in only 10% of his matches. more like half his career at least.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
Since you followed most of it, please provide me with some instances where he produced terrific ground fielding. There is no way he was up there with Roshan Mahna Mahnam.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
smash84
The Tiger King
you don't need very different fielding skills for ODIs
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
Of course you do, but you wouldn't have noticed that much supporting a country known for sloppy fielding.
Even in that clip Murali is fielding at mid on/mid off you don't put your best fieldsman there. Like I said, I didn't want it to be only about Murali, I looked at the XI and after watching Cricket believe that the fielding unit is no where near world class. Murali = average at best.
smash84
The Tiger King
when did I say he was SL's best fieldsman?
And just because I support Pakistan doesn't mean I can't judge a fielder on merit.
Thirdly, Murali was the main SL bowler, why the hell would they field him at short leg or slips?
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
1. When did I say that you said that he was SL's best fieldsman? You said he was up there with Chandana and Mahanama who were terrific, especially Roshan - I completely disagree that 'he's up there'.when did I say he was SL's best fieldsman?
And just because I support Pakistan doesn't mean I can't judge a fielder on merit.
Thirdly, Murali was the main SL bowler, why the hell would they field him at short leg or slips?
2. Yeah that's true. Meh.
3. I don't care about putting him at short leg or slips in an ODI lineup. He is the ****ing least of my worries anyway as he was a great bowler, the batsman genuinely occupy the best positions and the team selected is not a good fielding unit!
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yep, as a mod I'd like to give everyone one last warning about this - no more Warne-v-Murali stuff in here; we've got another thread for that.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
Of course its different. Different colour ball, often at night, more skied opportunities, catches in different positions. Not to mention the ground fielding and the sharpness needed for run outs.
Yeah if someone is a rubbish Test fielder, its unlikely that he is going to be a very good ODI fielder.
stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
There's also more importance on having a good arm and being quick in the outfield in ODIs. A good slipper such as Warne or Taylor will almost always be fielding at slip in a test. Such a fielder is less important in ODIs where he'll have to field in a less optimal position for much of the time.