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*Official* New Zealand Domestic Cricket Season 2012/2013

straw man

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
NZ A throwing away wickets recklessly and India A are pretty happy about it. Young's innings was awful. Rutherford looked pretty good - a little edgy early but from the bits I saw was good after that. Picking him to outscore Latham this season. Long batting lineup with Woodcock and Wells at 7 & 8. Brownlie still there and obviously trying to play himself into some form.

Haha Kippax, those Woodcock appeals looked very much out, especially the first one.
 
Hurricane

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
wellAlbidarned said:
Latham is looking absurdly creasebound. Might just be the camera angle tbf. Not liking how he's handling this short stuff either...
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Prince EWS said:
Yeah his footwork was terrible in that clip given he hit a ton.
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I see the glass as half full. That is the 1st time I have seen him off driving. So at least he didn't look like a one side of the wicket player in this clip.

Worst shot I saw him play was a forward defence to a ball chest high.

Anyway give him a year and he will be a black cap. If he averages 40 this season in FC they will call him up.
 
Kippax

Kippax

Cricketer Of The Year
Thanks Daemon. Yep he chopped on Boult coming around the wicket with a ball too close to cut, also not exactly Mark Waugh off his pads I've noticed. Goes nuts from third man through cover on his tour's wagon wheel as you'd expect.
 

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Bahnz

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Wow, Latham doesn't look too comfy against the short stuff, does he? Funny given that anything shorter than half-volley length would be up around his throat.
 
Bahnz

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Decent effort from Brownlie to get New Zealand past the follow-on, although tbh he kinda had to, given how badly he shafted Rutherford yesterday.
 
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SteveNZ

International Coach
He must know no matter how well he does in this series, there's no chance he's going to Sri Lanka. And they're going to have issues with him in the future when it comes to the turning ball and sub-continent tracks - or any decent spinner anywhere.
 
straw man

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
I saw Brownlie was sent for a ten-day stint in India recently for a crash course in playing spin. Haven't seen enough to know if it's worked. I think Brownlie could have a future in the NZ side however this is the first time he's scored any runs since being dropped - there were another handful of failures earlier this series. Scores tend to suggest it's a pretty flat deck here too.
 
Immenso

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
This article from Andrew Aldersen re: Wagner's place in the pecking order seems extremely out of touch, like he's spent the last few weeks somewhere exotic, like Sri Lanka ...... rather than in Lincoln. An article quoted on the previous page of this thread, revelaed Littlejohn's odd explanation for playing only 2 seamers, and omitting Wagner, in the most recent 'A' match.

Cricket: Getting back in the swing
By Andrew Alderson

Neil Wagner's demotion to 12th man for the New Zealand A match against India A last week raises questions about his international future.

Wagner became eligible to play for New Zealand earlier this year and was promptly included in the test squad to play in the Caribbean.

He played both tests as part of a New Zealand attack which struggled to contain the West Indies batsmen. Wagner took four wickets at 52.25 runs apiece. He remained part of the test touring party to India but wasn't required in the two test defeats there.

In that series, he was behind Chris Martin, Doug Bracewell, Trent Boult and Tim Southee in the pace bowling pecking order. His New Zealand A selection also presumably pushes him behind Brent Arnel and Andy McKay, who made the starting XI. Mark Gillespie will also be in the mix for selection when he recovers from injury.

The status quo places Wagner in an intriguing position. He and New Zealand Cricket have invested a lot in his Kiwi future. His Otago first-class record is outstanding - 137 wickets at 27.27, including six five-wicket bags.

Of those dismissals, 88 have come in the last two seasons when he topped the country's wicket count.

The 26-year-old is not panicking. He remains adamant he has made the right decision to move from his native South Africa to qualify as a New Zealand citizen.

"There just happens to be strong competition in the test bowling ranks," Wagner says. "In India, I was struggling for timing at the crease. I just wasn't at full pace or strength. Sometimes the ball can come out my hand too early and I can't control it. The opportunity was amazing but equally I realised it was a different level; there is no room for error.

"I also wouldn't have got anywhere near the reverse swing people might've expected from me in India. With monsoon rain, the grounds were lush, green and soft rather than abrasive. That meant relying on more conventional swing because the ball doesn't scuff as much. It was similar in the West Indies."

Wagner has kept in regular contact with New Zealand coach Mike Hesson, the man who originally recruited him for Otago ahead of the 2008-09 season.

"I spoke to Hess in India before I left. He said to work on a couple of things like getting my swing to return from good length deliveries and staying aggressive. He is one of the reasons I came here. He has been instrumental in my career and feeds me with a lot of confidence."

Hesson says Wagner is progressing well but despite four recent test losses, pace bowling remains an area with plenty of competition.

"Neil is continually working on improving his wrist position so he can swing the new and older ball consistently," says Hesson.

"The one thing you know about Neil is, if conditions suit and he gets an opportunity in the starting XI, he will never let you down."

Wagner admits he lacks the same impact in limited overs cricket but has worked hard on that over the New Zealand winter.

"I've been training on my shorter formats. Hess knows I can bowl at the death but if I seriously want to move into that type of cricket, I need to work more on my bowling variations, keeping my economy rates down and getting as many dot balls as possible.

"I also worked hard on batting over the winter so I can contribute better at nine or 10 by playing little knocks which can set the game up.

"I'm not sure how long Kyle Mills and Jacob Oram will be around as limited overs bowlers, so if I get an opportunity, I have got to be ready to step up."
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Cricket: Getting back in the swing - Cricket - NZ Herald News
 
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SteveNZ

International Coach
Yeah, I saw the snippet on the front of the paper and cringed.

Although K.Lawnbowls' explanation of why he was 12th man was a classic example of the new-age wankery and over-complication that is rife in some wings of professional sport these days. Keeping Wagner out to see how the rest of the attack goes without a spearhead? Does this seem a better idea than actually playing him and giving him a chance to impress/fine tune his game ahead of Sri Lanka, where it's not inconceivable that he could play?
 
Hurricane

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
SteveNZ said:
Yeah, I saw the snippet on the front of the paper and cringed.

Although K.Lawnbowls' explanation of why he was 12th man was a classic example of the new-age wankery and over-complication that is rife in some wings of professional sport these days. Keeping Wagner out to see how the rest of the attack goes without a spearhead? Does this seem a better idea than actually playing him and giving him a chance to impress/fine tune his game ahead of Sri Lanka, where it's not inconceivable that he could play?
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Wonderful post - love the language usage.
 
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