**Official** Group D Discussion - Pakistan, New Zealand, Bangladesh

[James]

Fri Sep 21
5th Match, Group D - Bangladesh v New Zealand
Pallekele International Cricket Stadium

Sun Sep 23
9th Match, Group D - New Zealand v Pakistan
Pallekele International Cricket Stadium

Tue Sep 25
12th Match, Group D - Bangladesh v Pakistan
Pallekele International Cricket Stadium

 

[straw man]

Preparing for ignominious defeat to Bangladesh, before Pakistan miraculously forget how to play cricket-ball and we beat them. They go on to beat Bangladesh convincingly and NZ & Pakistan advance.

 

[straw man]

Group D summary:

Match 1
The inconsistent dark horses take on the unpredictable charcoal horses!! Will the underhorse rise above the other underhorse?!!

Match 2
The mercurial night-coloured horses of the competition are tested by the capricious dark horses!! Who will win this battle for equine supremacy?!!

Match 3
The charcoal and night-coloured horses jockey for position coming into the final lap!! Who will surprise us all?!!

 

[BackFootPunch]

gun post.

 

[Kippax]

 

[smash84]

Preparing for ignominious defeat to Bangladesh, before Pakistan miraculously forget how to play cricket-ball and we beat them. They go on to beat Bangladesh convincingly and NZ & Pakistan advance.

Group D summary:

Match 1
The inconsistent dark horses take on the unpredictable charcoal horses!! Will the underhorse rise above the other underhorse?!!

Match 2
The mercurial night-coloured horses of the competition are tested by the capricious dark horses!! Who will win this battle for equine supremacy?!!

Match 3
The charcoal and night-coloured horses jockey for position coming into the final lap!! Who will surprise us all?!!

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Group D summary:

Match 1
The inconsistent dark horses take on the unpredictable charcoal horses!! Will the underhorse rise above the other underhorse?!!

Match 2
The mercurial night-coloured horses of the competition are tested by the capricious dark horses!! Who will win this battle for equine supremacy?!!

Match 3
The charcoal and night-coloured horses jockey for position coming into the final lap!! Who will surprise us all?!!

best post

 

[salman85]

Final Group Standings :

1.Pakistan
2.Bangladesh
3.New Zealand

Expect Pakistan to run through the group fairly comfortably,while Bangladesh will own New Zealand to come 2nd.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

If New Zealand get out of their group (50/50) they'll make the semis again bcos of easy super 8s - always too good for Windies and Poms (both are NZ's bunnies) in big tournaments regardless of lead-in form

 

[Bahnz]

Soooo, it sounds like New Zealand's lineup for the first match will be:

Franklin
Guptill
McCullum
Taylor
Nicol
Watling
Oram
Vettori
NcCullum
Mills
Southee/Milne (if Southee isn't fit)

Well, if the ball swings we should have a chance against Bangladesh.

 

[straw man]

Interesting move if they do open with Franklin - didn't he do that in the IPL? Had good strikers at the other end though.

Apparently Nicol and Southee scoring the wrong sort of runs so quite possible they'll both miss the opener v Bangas. Would mean Milne and Williamson likely play, which is not any better or worse.

Our bowling should be ok vs Bangas but can see our batsman struggling.

 

[BeeGee]

Soooo, it sounds like New Zealand's lineup for the first match will be:

Franklin
Guptill
McCullum
Taylor
Nicol
Watling
Oram
Vettori
NcCullum
Mills
Southee/Milne (if Southee isn't fit)

Well, if the ball swings we should have a chance against Bangladesh.

Um.... no Williamson?

McCullum has been passed fit to keep wicket, so I don't see any point in playing Watling ahead of Williamson.

 

[NUFAN]

Bangladesh paying $3.00 is very juicy even though I rate this NZ team.

 

[Kippax]

T20 World Cup | Martin Guptill plays straight bat... | Stuff.co.nz

No matter how the Bangladeshi journalists framed their one question, Black Caps opener Martin Guptill still played it with a dead bat.

Over and over again, Guptill was asked how he and the New Zealand team feel about the 4-0 one-day international whitewash they copped at the hands of Bangladesh in 2010.

He hadn't been on that tour, for a start, and for that reason the four defeats had made no lasting impression on him. As for the team, Guptill said they hadn't talked about it and basically didn't care.

It didn't deter the journalists but nor did it get them anywhere.

Neither did an inquiry about how the New Zealand's top-three might look, when they play Bangladesh at the Pallekele Cricket Stadium in their first match of the Twenty20 World Cup tomorrow night (NZT).

 

[Days of Grace]

I don't see much point in playing Nicol if he isn't going to open. To me, he's a boundary hitter on the 2 out of 5 times he will come off. Doesn't look to me to be one to rotate the strike during the middle overs, even if it is just Twenty20.

 

[straw man]

Paragraph 1 of NZ vs Bangladesh preview on cricinfo:

New Zealand, considered underdogs for the tournament, will open their World Twenty20 campaign against a team that is also considered this year's dark horses and actually hold a mental edge over them

Cricinfo parodying themselves?

Disappointing lack of "greater than the sum of their parts" and "hard working" though.

 

[Meridio]

They did get the 'play as a team' one though (or a variation thereof):

Ross Taylor will lead a side that has traditionally done well in multi-team tournaments, where they gel as a unit to reduce the gap between them and more talented or experienced sides

Yawn. Such lazy journalism. I wonder if Cricinfo will ever write a preview about NZ without mentioning any of those cliches?

 

[smash84]

Paragraph 1 of NZ vs Bangladesh preview on cricinfo:



Cricinfo parodying themselves?

Disappointing lack of "greater than the sum of their parts" and "hard working" though.

 

[SteveNZ]

T20 World Cup | Martin Guptill plays straight bat... | Stuff.co.nz

Haha, journalists are dicks. They're seriously asking if we're still scarred by a series three years ago, nigh on? Should our media ask if they're scarred from getting pounded in the Test at Hamilton in 2009 when Gup smashed 190?

Agreed that if Nicol doesn't open, he's a waste of space. We have two spin options, and three if Kane plays.

Franklin Guptill McCullum Taylor Williamson Oram McCullum Vettori Southee (if feeling fit) Mills Milne. If that amount of batting can't get a score, then so be it.

 

[straw man]

^^ Don't see that we need 6 bowlers (plus Franklin and Williamson). Would leave one of Southee, Mills or Milne out for Watling or Nicol. Probably Southee as he's still recovering from illness. Don't mind which of Nicol or Watling - Nicol just finds ways to score runs and, if nothing else, I find it amusing to watch. Sometimes the other team must just want to give up out of shear embarrassment .