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***Official*** New Zealand in India 2012

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
Couldn't agree more. Seems like you can get a bit further in this world by being a) a pint-sized 'battler' (read someone who really scraps for their 30, even if they are the same value as Mr Cameo's 30) or b) grunting a lot and swearing when you bowl (read N.Wagner).

Word is John Wright was not a fan of Reece, via the fact he had an earring, a tattoo and a personality.
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
I think par on that pitch against Ashwin was about 210-220. It was a difficult pitch. Should have made more than 150 odd.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
It's good for the Indian team and their supporters that they won so comprehensively. Hardly a flaw in this performance (fair, you can pick out the mix-up run-out, a dropped catch, poor strokes), but to gobble up the the Kiwis within three days is impressive. While this isn't the perfect performance or even the perfect team (spin is still a grey area given the selectors' current preference) there's a lot that India can take out of this event- if they can sort out their fast bowling resources (by sticking to four genuinely good picks and not diluting the base with nine blokes) and fortifying their spin base, they can mount another bid for the top spot in Tests. But first, they need to gobble up the Kiwis once more.

I'm quite surprised at that Ashwin/Ojha (and thus Indian spin in general) being sub-Bangladesh comment. Fair, I'm no big fan of either spinner, but if the Indians pick their best spinners, which these two are far from, they can assemble something better than England, and match Pakistan and post-Murali Lanka.

Instead of cluelessly bumbling with a batsman at six, they need to pick a run-scoring bowler if they're really, really serious about being the best Test side again. Ashwin v/s Raina (entire career averages) makes a case for that.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
It's good for the Indian team and their supporters that they won so comprehensively. Hardly a flaw in this performance (fair, you can pick out the mix-up run-out, a dropped catch, poor strokes), but to gobble up the the Kiwis within three days is impressive. While this isn't the perfect performance or even the perfect team (spin is still a grey area given the selectors' current preference) there's a lot that India can take out of this event- if they can sort out their fast bowling resources (by sticking to four genuinely good picks and not diluting the base with nine blokes) and fortifying their spin base, they can mount another bid for the top spot in Tests. But first, they need to gobble up the Kiwis once more.

I'm quite surprised at that Ashwin/Ojha (and thus Indian spin in general) being sub-Bangladesh comment. Fair, I'm no big fan of either spinner, but if the Indians pick their best spinners, which these two are far from, they can assemble something better than England, and match Pakistan and post-Murali Lanka.

Instead of cluelessly bumbling with a batsman at six, they need to pick a run-scoring bowler if they're really, really serious about being the best Test side again. Ashwin v/s Raina (entire career averages) makes a case for that.
It was day 4.
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
Has anyone acknowledged the ridiculousness of the situation of Brendon McCullum being given out because the ICC doesn't have the stones to stand up to the BCCI, yet the same organisation can threaten to ban/fine him for reacting to it? I thought that was outrageously hypocritical. A guy works that hard to bat for that long and he's dismissed because of the weak spine of the game's supposed highest power.

We never help ourselves but I think we can all agree we were dudded the most in that Test.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Has anyone acknowledged the ridiculousness of the situation of Brendon McCullum being given out because the ICC doesn't have the stones to stand up to the BCCI, yet the same organisation can threaten to ban/fine him for reacting to it? I thought that was outrageously hypocritical. A guy works that hard to bat for that long and he's dismissed because of the weak spine of the game's supposed highest power.

We never help ourselves but I think we can all agree we were dudded the most in that Test.
BCCI's DRS stance has been a shame. At the very least, they can implement it without the ball tracking, which is an area where even I have my doubts. But that is no reason to not have DRS at all.
 

Shri

Mr. Glass
Has anyone acknowledged the ridiculousness of the situation of Brendon McCullum being given out because the ICC doesn't have the stones to stand up to the BCCI, yet the same organisation can threaten to ban/fine him for reacting to it? I thought that was outrageously hypocritical. A guy works that hard to bat for that long and he's dismissed because of the weak spine of the game's supposed highest power.

We never help ourselves but I think we can all agree we were dudded the most in that Test.
It makes me laugh sadly to see us do the exact same thing to others that we did not like in Sydney 2008. Wouldn't mind seeing us lose a test again(or 10) due to umpiring **** ups and lack of UDRS. That should make 'em wake up.

Anyway, I bet UDRS gets immediately approved once Tendulkar retires. Can't think of anyone else in the side who objects to it really.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
If Tendulkar is single handedly holding up the UDRS, its utterly pathetic but at the same time hilarious. Especially since it probably won India the WC (Overturned LBW dismissal of Ajmal to Sachin in semi)
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
It makes me laugh sadly to see us do the exact same thing to others that we did not like in Sydney 2008. Wouldn't mind seeing us lose a test again(or 10) due to umpiring **** ups and lack of UDRS. That should make 'em wake up.

Anyway, I bet UDRS gets immediately approved once Tendulkar retires. Can't think of anyone else in the side who objects to it really.
That's exactly it - it's a bit of tit for tat, right? Even though there was plenty of tat in the World Cup as someone pointed out. It's just indescribably wrong.

Dhoni objects to it, does he not?

As for whether HawkEye is accurate or not, it's certainly more accurate than some guy's eyeballs 22 yards away. That's what people tend to forget - it's there to make decisions better than two guys in white coats, not to make every one 100 percent correct. I have my doubts too but I'm told it's 99 percent accurate, which is hell of a lot more than a guy at the other end. And I feel bad for the umpires because the technology is there for people to dissect their decisions with but it's not there for them to dissect decisions with. Where's the justice in that.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
It makes me laugh sadly to see us do the exact same thing to others that we did not like in Sydney 2008. Wouldn't mind seeing us lose a test again(or 10) due to umpiring **** ups and lack of UDRS. That should make 'em wake up.

Anyway, I bet UDRS gets immediately approved once Tendulkar retires. Can't think of anyone else in the side who objects to it really.
Dhoni.
 

Daemon

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It makes me laugh sadly to see us do the exact same thing to others that we did not like in Sydney 2008. Wouldn't mind seeing us lose a test again(or 10) due to umpiring **** ups and lack of UDRS. That should make 'em wake up.
Sydney 2008 was just plain retardation. This match was a poor one for the umps as well, but mainly because of all the close calls that went in India's favour, along with the couple of dire calls.

But yeah, if the same thing had occurred against India, then we'ld probably see UDRS in the next series. Need a wake up call.
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
Sorry I got it wrong, he did get a fine. Says a Level 1 offence is up to 50 percent of match fee. Which would have been zero if the ICC had any stones.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
It makes me laugh sadly to see us do the exact same thing to others that we did not like in Sydney 2008. Wouldn't mind seeing us lose a test again(or 10) due to umpiring **** ups and lack of UDRS. That should make 'em wake up.

Anyway, I bet UDRS gets immediately approved once Tendulkar retires. Can't think of anyone else in the side who objects to it really.
The captain? Or the board officials?

Don't know where this nonsense about Sachin deciding everything in Indian cricket comes from? He has already said that he doesn't have a objection to UDRS.

Sachin Tendulkar bats for UDRS : Cricket, News - India Today

Sachin Tendulkar backs UDRS system - daily.bhaskar.com
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
BCCI's DRS stance has been a shame. At the very least, they can implement it without the ball tracking, which is an area where even I have my doubts. But that is no reason to not have DRS at all.
Yeah, agreed.

ICC had implemented it earlier with mandatory and not mandatory parts but even went back on that. I guess the other boards which like Hawk eye don't want to implement a system without it, which means that there is no uniform application of any system.
 

ganeshran

International Debutant
Seniors initially had an objection to DRS after its horrendous application in the Lanka series. However once BCCI took a stance against it, any sort of a change in stance is seen by them as a climbdown and a defeat. that is why they are reluctant to accept DRS even after seniors have supported it

However DRS is also not used in plenty of series that India doesnt play in, owing to financial constraints. First it should be made clear who pays for DRS even if it is mandatory across the board.
 
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