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**Official** South Africa in England 2012

Burgey

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Uppercut said:
Can he be given out handled the ball if he gloves it without holding the bat?
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Nah because he didn't intentionally or reflexively handle it. The ball simply glanced it.

Nasser now using camera angles not seen by the umpire to say the umpire got it right, despite the angles the umpire saw showing he hand was off the bat. Clever.
 
MW1304

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I forgot we still had a review as well, was confused as to why Broad wanted to use it again for a sec.
 
Prince EWS

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Scaly piscine said:
Yea one good delivery, played badly, in 3 Tests. Of course he's worth his place ahead of Onions.
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He didn't play the first Test and he's only bowled five overs in this one, so "three Tests" is definitely an exaggeration. The hilarity of it all lies in exactly how different we know your posts would've been if Onions had taken two wickets.

Scaly piscine said:
Bollocks. What has he done to show he's a better bowler than Onions this season? Did some damage in the ODIs, a completely different situation and that's it. Everything else Onions has comprehensively outperformed him. Far better in the Test where they both played. Far better record this season. Far better in English conditions. Far better fit for the side. Far better fit for the situation of having to win a Test match. The only situation it would even be close is in Australia where you get rewarded with wickets simply for bowling quick and being tall, whilst the pitches are otherwise pretty flat. If you can just turn up and bowl quick with bounce and not have to do anything else then Finn is a good option, the rest of the time he doesn't have the nous, he doesn't understand his game well enough to know how to use what he has, how to work batsmen over. He also doesn't seem to have the stamina to maintain pace for long. Until he learns his game he needs to stick with county cricket - that's what it is there for.

Another absolute ****ing prank selection which flies in the face of fairness. Been absolutely lethal in county cricket? Done all the hard work? We'll just pick someone who keeps performing worse than you, again, ahead of you. Onions has more than earned his selection for this Test. Finn has not.
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Funnily enough I don't actually disagree with a lot of what you've said about Finn there. I think Uppercut said it best when he said that Finn had every commonly over-rated asset in a fast bowler - he's young, tall, quick, bowls well in ODIs and makes batsmen look uncomfortable. These are all good attributes to have as a fast bowler but fans tend to give them a lot more importance than they actually deserve when compared to experience, nous, movement, accuracy, consistency, planning etc. I've just never been very enamoured with Onions to tell you the truth so I think that attributes Finn has - slightly over-rated as they are - make him the better bowler of the two. I also think he adds better balance to this attack with the type of bowlers Anderson and Broad are.

The problem is just that you're so inconsistent - or rather actually that you're so obviously and ruthlessly consistent in your desire to plug Durham players at every opportunity. That one man can one minute claim Harmison to be an infinitely better bowler than Hoggard because the latter got to bowl when the going was at its easiest and had no psychological effect on the batsmen can then turn around the next minute and cry foul when Finn is selected ahead of Onions says it all for me. It's just impossible to take you seriously on the matter.
 
Thriel

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according to commentators the third umpire can not overturn the field umpires descision unless he has desisive evidence.... really really poor descision, im sure there gonna be alot of complaints about that one, specialy with a top order batsman.
 
AndyZaltzHair

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Much talk about how vulnerable England's lower middle order; now we'll get to see how SAf lower middle order plays esp after the failure of top order and absolutely nothing on scorecard. SAf lower middle order is not in top form either
 
grecian

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Prince EWS said:
The problem is just that you're so inconsistent - or rather actually that you're so obviously and ruthlessly consistent in your desire to plug Durham players at every opportunity. That one man can one minute claim Harmison to be an infinitely better bowler than Hoggard because the latter got to bowl when the going was at its easiest and had no psychological effect on the batsmen can then turn around the next minute and cry foul when Finn is selected ahead of Onions says it all for me. It's just impossible to take you seriously on the matter.
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Meh, I just find it funny really after all these years, he does the same in all threads wher his faves are involved, it's glorious in it's predictably.:D
 
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